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To: Hippieslayer who wrote (7820)1/19/1998 12:53:00 AM
From: Charles Tutt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213173
 
I guess I read the article a little differently than do you. It does not seem to say clone HD's will not work, as I understood you to say. It does seem to say there may be a problem with non-bootable third-party CD-ROM drives. I can't get worked up over that.

JMHO.



To: Hippieslayer who wrote (7820)1/19/1998 2:34:00 AM
From: Eric Yang  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213173
 
Don't go around starting rumors when you don't know the facts. Your are getting a couple things confused. There is system 8.1 and there is HFS+. System 8.1 supports HFS+ but that doesn't mean you need to make a drive HFS+ just to use 8.1. To use an analogy, it's like saying that the membership to a health club offers you the privilage to use their pool. But that doesn't mean that you must know how to swim just to join the club!

All you need to do is run your updater and it'll update OS8 and turn it into 8.1....DONE. Now If you want to take advantage of System 8.1's HFS+ option which will save you some space on large drives, you'll have to reformat the drive that you want to make into HFS+. Why is that so shocking to you? You're installing a whole new file system, of course you'll have to reformat the drive! (there are actually ways around it so that you don't have to reformat but we'll talk about that some other time). Even when you're installing third party drivers for HDs often you have to reformat the HD if the driver software has been updated to the point where it is too big to fit into the original driver partition.

Obviously you'll need a extra drive (internal or external) to backup your data during the reformat if you want to use HFS+ but is that Apple's fault? It's a simple fact of live. If you have a drive large enough to benefit from HFS+ (1 gig or more) there is a good chance that you have lots of storage already anyway. That means instead of one big drive you probably should have partitioned it into many volumes already. In that case you don't even need additional HDs. Just back things up from one partion to another while you convert each volume to HFS+.

I updated 8.0 to 8.1 earlier today. Took 5 mins. Piece of cake. Again you do not need to reformat or anything unless you want HFS+. I have three 2 Gig partitions, one 2.0 gig internal and one 2.0 gig external...for a total of FIVE separate volumes. By the end of the day they'll all be converted to HFS+ and I would have saved over 400MB or more per drive.
If your drive is small and you don't have the space to partion or back things up, chances are you won't benefit much from HFS+ anyway so just install 8.1 and leave it at that.

Eric



To: Hippieslayer who wrote (7820)1/19/1998 10:51:00 AM
From: Alomex  Respond to of 213173
 
but I think they've done a good job over the years of shooting themselves in the foot where as they no longer have any toes left.

Of course they have, that is why they are in such a sorry state. With Jobs back at the helm, we can expect quite a few of those "piss the customer" decisions.

Hopefully (for Apple's sake) they won't be not too many.