To: Lane3 who wrote (117399 ) 4/9/2019 12:13:34 PM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 365017 >> That's a ridiculous statement. Surely she didn't sit back and deliberate her political posture while her own baby was struggling. It was rhetorical, let me rephrase. Not a month ago we were in a group of people from our hometown and she commented that until her daughter was born, she was pro choice. But that event changed her view. Whether she actually debated in the moment, I would assume not. But somewhere in there, a new paradigm for her kicked in. She continues as before to be an extreme leftist, but this one element of her life changed at that time, apparently (this is not a discussion I regularly have with her, it just came up a little while back amongst high school friends). The key point is she said the birth of her daughter made the difference. Whether it was literally that day or she had considered other possibilities before or it was later on, I don't know. But the baby could have been allowed to die. She was told her daughter could have symptoms going forward (which she does, but they're minor) but she was not physically deformed in any way. Had one of the problems you mentioned been present, they would have had a very difficult decision. But that's really not the circumstance we started out talking about. If a physician can say in good faith, "This baby has serious problems that will prevent it from living," it is one case. If a physician can say, "This baby has no serious problems and would almost certainly live a normal life," that is another case. The edge and corner cases are always the toughest. Gross deformities, brain damage, dysfunctional internal systems, a problem. Babies are sometimes both with genetic features which currently tend to limit their lifespans. And then, in the minuscule percentage arena at nearly full term, there is, "I never wanted a baby in the first place." The edge cases are inherently individual moral decisions for the parents. But the corner case -- "I didn't want the baby anyway," may be a decision more appropriately decided by someone else who has the child's welfare in mind. I'm squishy on this entire topic because my position is ever-changing with improving technology and as we develop more medical knowledge about what can or could happen. I do not purport to align with any other individual's views.