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To: j g cordes who wrote (15950)	1/20/1998 3:18:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

"Carol, what women might call vulnerability men would call empathy. " Why on earth do you say that? Vulnerability means open to attack, while one can be empathetic with or without another person's knowledge. That just means capable of understanding another's feelings. Which might be weakness for a warrior/hunter, actually. We had a pretty good debate somewhere, on Rambi or Feelies, about who would have more empathy, men or women. It is my opinion that empathy would be selected for in women but not men. Women raise children, you need empathy to assess the needs of an infant. Women also by and large maintain the culture, and do more interactive scoial activities. I would think that empathy for a hunter would be a problem. Same goes for the guys that need to protect thier village from marauders. And with all due respect to your amazon women, armies made up of women are the exception just as societies which contain men as the primary childrearers are. In fact, I can't think of a one.

To: j g cordes who wrote (15950)	1/20/1998 3:24:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Ummmmm, I think you've got this wrong. What we're talking about here, if I mistake it not, is guys who'll open up and tell you they cried when their puppy died. And His voice'll get a little husky in the telling. Sooooo sexy, no?

To: j g cordes who wrote (15950)	1/20/1998 3:57:00 PM
From: Carol	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<The root problem is within the word itself.. "vulnerable" something most men are, in their agressive thoughts, very aware of.>> Jim, I think you are absolutely right that its the word itself that is the problem. It's very hard for a man to view himself as vulnerable when he has to function in a dog eat dog world every day. And you are right, women dispise weak men, unless they have a problem and need that. But, that is not what a woman means when she says, "vulnerable" empathy is a more suitable, but I'm not sure it conveys the whole meaning. Good insight, you are well on you way to "sexy vulnerability/empathy" in my book. ):-) Carol