To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (2293 ) 4/22/2019 9:47:21 PM From: sense Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3350 One of the more obvious issues in "legal terms" of the effort in co-opting legitimacy... ? The Mueller Report... among other things it exposes... exposes that Mueller is a (et al are) really bad lawyer(s). First, start by ignoring the basic element in the design of the "bait and switch" inherent in spending two years looking for something that they PROVED wasn't there... there is no bait... the lack of which also proves the investigation itself had no legitimate basis ? Ignore that... proving it wasn't there... also requires answering the questions about the source and origin in crimes that occurred in the accusation... in the effort made fostering the claims it was real ? Adam Schiff is still holding out on us with his "evidence" and "proof" ? The switch in the shift... now... to "obstruction"... that ignores all the failure inherent in everything before now ? Hmmm. Ignoring all that... Two elements other than that, which, in particular... bear careful scrutiny from all sides. First, and least, is the element in "obstruction"... I agree with him, but, for now, I'll leave it for Alan Dershowitz to expound upon his as "Mueller got the law of obstruction all wrong." Give me Mueller or Dershowitz ? I'll take Dershowitz. Second, the attempted effort to alter the fundamental legal standards in western jurisprudence... Dershowitz has also addressed that I think ? Many have commented on it. But, they seem so certain of their opinions on it that they comment and let it pass... thinking they've killed that dragon merely by mentioning its name... and pointing out its lair. The Mueller Report is entirely constructed on the basis of accepting the assumption that Trump is guilty because he's been accused. Guilty unless you can prove you are innocent ? I didn't vote for that... and I doubt many American will vote for any political party that are flogging that expedient as a requirement to win their points, in order to get their agenda pushed forward... It appears that the investigation was conducted on that basis, too... not just the legal arguments. Given that there is no basis for that in law.... and anything done on that basis is done only under color of law...I suggest that "easter egg" might well open up into additional avenues to explore the limits of our tolerance of that behavior in the civil courts. There is probably significant personal liability tied to it... given it cannot be made a claim that it is the legitimate position of the government. I think out legal system has atrophied enough... for those to whom the law does not apply... that the greater danger lies in civil actions than in "redress" sought through "proper channels." A third, related, issue arises in context of my prior post of a link re Nancy's conundrum... I expect most people will respond to that "missive" of hers with outrage, political in focus, varying depending only on their relative position... on the spectrum. "Pelosi also conceded Democrats don’t all agree on what course they should take following the report’s release last week"... misses what matters in prior history... what Pelosi knows that others don't... about the ownership of the origin of the scheme to "get Trump" using the FBI and DOJ... in ways far outside the legitimacy of the law. That having failed... leaves only the need for fully exposing what it was... how it failed... and who is at fault. The old guard in the Democratic Party... are not going to survive the truth coming out. Exposing what it was that failed... and who is at fault... IS going to happen. Nancy knows it. Many if not most others may not know what they were signed up to. The most desperate among them clearly do... Pelosi, Shumer, Feinstein, Cummings, Nadler... Schiff, Swalwell... are desperate for a reason... Brennan, Comey, Clapper... Susan Rice, Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama. The lucky ones are the names people already know, who might avoid some of what's coming by having already gotten a bit of it. I doubt Peter Strzok or Andrew McCabe are going to dodge additional pennance, though. Remember the look on Rosensteins face as Barr read his statement on Mueller's Report. Yeah. It is "important to know that the facts regarding holding the president accountable can be gained outside of impeachment hearings." means VERY different things depending on what you already know. But, that's not what I intended to address, that being this: "As we proceed to uncover the truth and present additional needed reforms to protect our democracy, we must show the American people we are proceeding free from passion or prejudice, strictly on the presentation of fact," she wrote. If you read that in context of "let's keep going after Trump" you get one thing... if you know the effort to "get Trump" was a crime far worse than Watergate... and that it has failed spectacularly... you read another. " present additional needed reforms" ? That's the the only real content I see in the entire statement. It's the only part that is in any way actionable... all of the rest being blather at best. I expect there will be some disagreement about what that might mean. I don't expect it will be possible for that to be settled until after the next election. I'm probably seeing that differently, too, than the herd of wannabees lining up on the left for what they assume will be a cakewalk... because... he's so orange.