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To: koan who wrote (420964)	10/17/2019 1:31:39 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541739

<name just three primitive societies anywhere on earth where women have equality with men.> What you ask for is unreasonable. First - primitive by whose definition? That term itself shows arrogance and ignorance - it wasn't in the article. Are you kind and educated if you buy a shirt from Bangladesh sweatshops made by child labor simply because you are full of your liberal zeal and ignorant of the pain your shirt subsidized? Second - if you mean "pre-contact" - our only knowledge of them looks like the picture below. We can't study them in their natural state due to the measurement paradox... we have to interact to study and we change them by doing that. Their first contacts are often exploitative so they are already on the defensive when we meet them, no longer in their neutral and natural state. Being raped by miners and foresters does that to people. Third - why do you get to make assertive claims for the positive causation of something natural (e.g., maternal kindness and nurturing), without evidence, and anyone who says "Wait a minute. How do you know that?" has to produce evidence to debunk your claim of the passivization of meanness by book-reading. Show me three people that tortured others as a child and became kind and tolerant just because they went to school. Schooling usually just gave them a larger pool of victims. Not saying it is impossible, just not probable.