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To: cosmicforce who wrote (420972)	10/17/2019 1:42:36 PM
From: Jamie153	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541768

Blaming "liberal zeal" for the things CEOs fill our stores with that are made in foreign countries is one of the oddest things I've read today. Today, we learned, "Wells Fargo report: A.I. will cut 200,000 American bank jobs over next decade." Do we get to blame "liberal zeal" for this too?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (420972)

10/17/2019 3:46:17 PM

From: koan

Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 541768

First, everything I post is just my opinion. Secondly, most of what I say is common knowledge. I don't know how anyone cannot see the truth of most of what I post? It is pretty basic stuff.

With regard to the impact of education on modern humanitarian civilization, isn't that obvious? It changed us profoundly.

We have been animals for millions of years. 15,000 years ago or so, we started to learn and kept learning until we discovered things like republics and modern ethics, and all the modern humanitarian norms and mores we enjoy today.

Can you not see how much kinder we are today than even 100 years ago and certainly 200 years ago when slavery was common place?

And in the last century modern humanitarian norms, mores and understanding has been exploding around the world e.g. we are doing away with racism, sexism and homophobia around the world at light speed, because we humans are getting so much more educated with public education and the internet.

PS I study cultures around the world as a hobby and what strikes out to me is how repressed and abused females are in most of the third world.

But not so much in more advanced societies.

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<name just three primitive societies anywhere on earth where women have equality with men.>

What you ask for is unreasonable.

First - primitive by whose definition? That term itself shows arrogance and ignorance - it wasn't in the article. Are you kind and educated if you buy a shirt from Bangladesh sweatshops made by child labor simply because you are full of your liberal zeal and ignorant of the pain your shirt subsidized?

Second - if you mean "pre-contact" - our only knowledge of them looks like the picture below. We can't study them in their natural state due to the measurement paradox... we have to interact to study and we change them by doing that. Their first contacts are often exploitative so they are already on the defensive when we meet them, no longer in their neutral and natural state. Being raped by miners and foresters does that to people.

Third - why do you get to make assertive claims for the positive causation of something natural (e.g., maternal kindness and nurturing), without evidence, and anyone who says "Wait a minute. How do you know that?" has to produce evidence to debunk your claim of the passivization of meanness by book-reading.

Show me three people that tortured others as a child and became kind and tolerant just because they went to school. Schooling usually just gave them a larger pool of victims. Not saying it is impossible, just not probable.