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To: Grainne who wrote (16538)	1/23/1998 3:04:00 PM
From: jim kelley	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Grace, Wake up and smell the coffee! In an ideal world everyone would tell the truth. Unfortunately, this is not an ideal world and it is not very often black and white morally. The legal system is frequently perverse and immoral if you have not noticed. You are under no moral obligation to spill your sexual guts because you have been forced to a deposition by Starr. This matter should have been closed out a long time ago. Starr lies in public as well and you do not seem to have a problem with that. All public officials lie. Diogenes spent a lot of time searching for an honest man. There has been no Presidential administration in history which did not have a swirl of controversy over various money and political scandals.

To: Grainne who wrote (16538)	1/23/1998 7:27:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 108807

Starr would not be in the position of using Monica had not Clinton used her first... Why do you insist on the idea that Clinton "used her"? He boffed her; she welcomed it. God knows there are as many women as men who collect scalps: "Hey! I had it off with the President!" Something to tell one's grandchildren. Unless you're braindead, you enter upon a "relationship" knowing that its success depends on mutual satisfaction and fulfillment. If it doesn't work out, or if you're getting less than you'd like (say he won't leave his wife to marry you), well, you can either accept or reject those terms. Stay with what you've got or end it. But no point casting blame. There was no "commitment" between Lewinsky and Clinton, as I understand it. It was just an affair. Fine. BFD. No reason to make all this fuss.