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To: kidl who wrote (7145)	1/9/2020 10:49:20 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 8756

The pooch is already bonding and looking up to me for permission. Dobermans are incredibly intelligent dogs who are eager to please. The main issue with the dog is if I'll have enough time. The bigger issue is the wife :( When you read the ad description the guy put up, the dog is described as, crate trained, house trained, sits on command, etc. None of which is really true, except maybe the potty trained part - though I still have to validate that. Dogs don't need to be trained to sit, lay down, go to toilet etc. They already know how to do all that. What they need to be trained at is communicating their needs and trusting that when a human tells them to do something, it is in their interest to do so. Given what I saw, I suspect that point was lost on the owner.

To: kidl who wrote (7145)	1/9/2020 11:52:14 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8756

BTW, I've been reading about American dobermans vs European ones. The two are sufficiently different that a case could be made for considering them different breeds. Not only there are visible differences, once you know what to look for, there are significant temperament differences. Briefly, the American doberman is better looking, more in tune with the owner's emotions, and pretty much makes a perfect family pet if you can give it enough exercise. But it is unlikely to win any IPO competitions. It is not an attack dog or even a terribly good protection dog. It needs a gentler and more positive training. The German variety is truer to its original purpose as a protection dog. It tends to be more headstrong and muscular. It is more likely to get physical and can handle physical corrections better. It won't win any conformation awards (not in NA anyway) and will be a very different pet than its American counterpart. Genetically, the European ones are more likely to have heart problems than the American ones. I suspect this is because (1) Most of them died during WWII (and WWI) and (2) the more stringent European standards. The combination of these two has likely led to greater inbreeding in Europe than in NA...but that is just my hypothesis.