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To: koan who wrote (432156)	3/6/2020 2:04:54 PM
From: Sam	4 Recommendations Recommended By abuelita bentway epicure Triffin Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542169

This is not a "fact," this is your opinion: " Bloomberg is basically a moderate Republican, and does not share the basic ideology of the more liberal Democratic party. Progressives don't go back and forth between parties on a whim. A progressive knows what they believe and seldom votes or flirts with either conservatives or the Republican party. I've quoted this before and I'll probably quote it again, but: Will Rogers wrote a hundred years ago that "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." It is still true today, albeit in a different way. You may want to claim that some Democrats are not "true" Democrats, they are actually moderate Republicans because they don't agree with your version of what the Democratic Party is, but that is why you manage to irritate people on this board and why, when you claim to "merely" stating your opinion in some of your posts, you come across as dogmatic and silly. There are far more people who think of themselves as Democrats who would disagree with your version of what a true Democrat is. Look at the presidents who have been Democrats since WWII: Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama--every one of them would be classified as a "moderate" or, you would possibly even call some of them "moderate Republicans". In the case of LBJ, you probably would have classified him as racist Republican before he became president until you saw what he managed to do. You always claim to know history, but the truth is, you ignore historical facts when they are inconvenient to your ideological bent. You say that the future of the Democratic Party is with the progressive kids, but many of the "kids" couldn't be bothered to vote. If I was 20 years old and had the same mindset as I did back when I actually was 20, I probably would have voted for Warren. I have changed, I have far more experience of human nature and far more historical knowledge and perspective on sociological realities. It came down to Biden or Bloomberg for me, they both have their pluses and minuses. If you look at the things that Bloomberg did when he was mayor -- aside from stop and frisk -- they were mostly very mainstream Democratic things. If you look at the issues he has worked on and given money for since being mayor, they are all mainstream Democratic. He put NYC on a sound financial footing, not by cutting programs like a Republican would but by raising taxes, mostly on the wealthy, like a Democrat would. He banned smoking in many public places--including parks--like a Democrat would. He believes in progressive taxation, in child care for all, in gun control, in a strong government helping the poor, even doing something about college debt and making at least some college (two years) free for people who need financial aid. He became a Republican in his first run because that was the primary that was open to him in NYC. Many Rs in NYC are like Ds in most other parts of the country. You are the anomaly, Koan, not the majority of the people on this board. Or even the great majority of Democrats around the country. But as usual with your limited perspective, you can only see things through your ideological lens. That is a fact, not an opinion.