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To: codfish23 who wrote (144934)	5/6/2020 11:30:07 AM
From: oldirtybastard	5 Recommendations Recommended By codfish23 GROUND ZERO™ Hawkmoon the longhorn toccodolce Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 220073

for sure, the list of drugs that affects QT interval is very long, and degree of effect matters as well. I've not delved deep into it but assume the effect HCQ has on QT is immaterial for >90% of the all-age population who have no cardiac conduction abnormalities at baseline. It is on the physician and patient to weigh that risk on an individual basis as part of the treatment decision, as in the case of every other QT-relevant drug. Saying this drug would cause deaths for this 10% is very disingenous as most of them would not get the drug. And BTW, 200,000 physician eror deaths per year overall i think, so we have some leeway with getting this specific one right, or rather a high tolerance for mistakes lol

To: codfish23 who wrote (144934)	5/6/2020 1:24:56 PM
From: Katelew	1 Recommendation Recommended By Hawkmoon Respond to of 220073

Right. I've been following it carefully since it was first used in China and agree with everything you say. It's a tragedy, right along with the failure of the US to secure PPE, rapid testing, and many other things. At the same time, one of the drugs proven side effects is arrhythmia. It can't be ignored. I have that issue in both chambers and suspect I've experienced at least two events of fibrillation in the last two months. As a doc, you know where that puts me in terms of high risk. My assumption is that the pneumonia part of the illness would trigger cardiac arrest. Therefore, I'm hoping fervently that I might be one who would receive the treatment early after infection and monitored by a doc or nurse knowledgeable in cardiology.

To: codfish23 who wrote (144934)	5/6/2020 2:16:38 PM
From: Mevis	Respond to of 220073

spot on cod.

To: codfish23 who wrote (144934)	5/6/2020 3:15:17 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	7 Recommendations Recommended By Cyrus Fuzzy Hawkmoon Rollocaster SGJ and 2 more members Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 220073

Immunologists are saying that isolation weakens the immune system and that extended isolation over two months weakens the immune system to a very low level and that once people begin to mingle with the weakened immune system that we're very likely going to see a big spike in all kinds of illnesses, not only this virus but many kinds of viruses... People naturally develop immunity to virus by making contact with them, little kids play with dirty things and then they put their fingers into their mouths, but the body naturally develops an immunity to this kind of virus contact... Social isolation was the worst thing to do, we can't hide from any virus, we can't sanitize the universe, we build an immunity to virus only by contact with it... Today, all of society has a much weaker immune system than only two and three months ago... Is this true??? TIA GZ