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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (66)1/28/1998 1:28:00 AM
From: Street Walker  Respond to of 14778
 
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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (66)1/28/1998 10:25:00 AM
From: Dirk Hente  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14778
 
* * Multiple monitor & win98 * *
as promised some more stuff about my multiple graphic card experience.

last couple of days I did some testing to find out the features of Win98 wrt support of multiple graphic cards. Last weekend I bought 2 new graphic cards, so that I have now 5 gcards for 2 computers.

As I already mentioned, my start configuration was 2 Millennium & NT4.0.
In the meantime, I successfully tested the following configs under Win98Beta3:

1. 2 S3 Trio64V2 (Dual Monitor)
2. 1 Millenium + 1 S3 Trio64V2 (Dual Monitor)
3. 1 Millenium + 2 S3 Trio64V2 (Triple Monitor)

The most exciting thing with Win98 is, that for a multiple gcard setup
you can still use your old graphic card (restriction: it must be a PCI card).
You just add one (or more) new graphic cards which become your secondary cards under win98. The old card becomes the so called primary card ( I didn't know this when I started my testing). There is, however, a restriction for the added secondary gcards: the graphic chip must be in the list of supported hardware for multiple graphic card configuration. One example of supported hardware is the S3 TRIO64V2, so I decided to buy two (identical) no name cards (30$ each). (btw, the Millenium Cards are not in the list of supported hardware for BETA3 and Matrox doesn't offer special Win98 drivers yet)
At the beginning I wondered how the system can find out which card is which one: which is the primary and which one is the secondary. This is especially important when you have an old gcard which must become the primary card. Now i know. It depends on the PCI slot (PCI Interrupt) number. I had some trouble when I first started with the combination Millnium&Trio64V2, but finally, after I switched the PCI slot position of both cards, the Millennium became the primary and everything worked fine.

The second interesting point with Win98 is its flexibility wrt monitor configuration. When you go into "display setting" you can see one monitor symbol for each graphic card. Now you can move these symbols around thereby defining your desktop area. There seems to be no restricition at all as long as the symbols are touching each other.

After all testing, I am quite happy with the results.
On one computer I am using now Win NT4.0 Workstation with 2 Millenniums and on the second 2 TRIO64V2 and Win98Beta3. A 17" monitor is attached to each gcard. I am currently using 2 17" VOBIS PC monitors (nothing special) and 2 17" workstation monitors (one variable frequency EIZO T560I and one fixed frequency SUN GDsomething monitor).
BTW, in my trading environment I am using 12 Communicator windows (for gritch, dbc, si, order entry, real time snap quotes, historical charts) and mirc on my first computer, while on second computer I am running Internet Trader with 9 tick charts and a real audio stream for CNBC.



To: Zeuspaul who wrote (66)2/2/1998 11:15:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14778
 
RAM limitations

A guy on the PC Mechanic site pushed the WIN 95 RAM limitation issue. It turns out that the RAM limit is not due to WIN 95. The theoretical limit is 4GB. The amount of RAM you will be able to use is related to your hardware (motherboard, chipset,CPU) There are many chipsets that have the 64MB limitation. The ABIT LX6 supports 512 MB RAM as do many PII motherboards.

>>Because of the 32bit address bus used in computers from the 386DX
up to todays computers pII the maximum addressing ram is 4GB. You can calculate it your self..."
2(exp.32) " (2 being the base of the binary script) Then is up to the mainboard and the chipset how much you can pump in to it. For an example: The iFX, iVX and iTX uses a 8 bit tag ram. Therefore
the maximum cache area is 64MB. To the win95 ram issue... Windows will draw some "software" memory addressing limit for you. You can expand your memory as much as your hardware can deal with.<<
pcmech.pair.com
(I fixed a couple of spelling mistakes)

If you want to check chip set RAM support try

anandtech.com

Onward

Zeuspaul