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To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (159087)	6/14/2020 1:13:07 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 219981

Re the chart you posted, whilst I realise folks can make statistics say almost all if not all anyone wishes to say, I have never tried my hand at deliberately doing so, and so here it goes, to illustrate a point that many arguments can be made, reasonably (I hope) (1) It would be more telling data had there been times-series graph, but I shall try to work w/ what is below, and try for inarguable (2) If I were a reasonable 'right' of center / conservative, I would note that given the population mix in the USA, and essentially segregated neighbourhoods across the entire set of large cities, we must conclude (2-i) Africans may kill more than others races (I do not know how hispanics are counted, maybe included in below charts, perhaps not), but certainly kill more than Europeans (I try to use absolutely PC terms) (2-ii) Given that the neighbourhoods are segregated (more so than not), folks kill in their own neighbourhoods more so than other neighbourhoods, except in the case of Africans (2-iii) The natural killing rate is ~ 10-11 per million, but the killing of Africans by Europeans is below the natural rate, because Euro types are less likely to venture into African neighbourhoods because they fear the natural-killing rate (3) If I were a reasonable 'left' of center / liberal, I would note that given the population mix in the USA, and essentially segregated neighbourhoods across the entire set of large cities, we must conclude (3-i) Africans kill more because of (a), (b), (c), ... lack of upward economic mobility from the get-go, and all the roadblocks along the way (3-ii) There are more to kill for in neighbourhoods other than African neighbourhoods given (3-i) (3-iii) There are less to kill for by Europeans in African neighbourhoods given (3-i) (4) If the Hispanics are not a part of the below data, I would guess, irrespective of my position relative to center, that the Hispanic data come in between that of Europeans and African (5) The outliers would be the Asians, irrespective of my position relative to center, because data concerning Asians are usually inconvenient to quite a few debates, and few suggest the obvious because that causes other issues, reasonable or not (6) Safer for a single African family to live in a European neighbourhood, than for a European family to live in an Africa neighbourhood (i.e. do not make a wrong turn on the highway at night in a fancy car) (7) Does not invalidate the street protests, except to note that the protests might be more about inequality than about BLM, and if so, the issues / problems have few inexpensive / easy workarounds (8) Rioting is something different than protesting, but can be leveraged by even reasonable folks nevemind the extremes

To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (159087)	6/14/2020 10:31:07 AM
From: arun gera	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219981

This is not what the Black Live Matter is protesting. Anyone should find what happened to Floyd objectionable. Black killing whites or white killing blacks is a non-issue here. It is that the police, who are paid through tax-payer dollars, need to be more accountable. And we should not defend their bad actions, especially egregious ones, whether the one who is affected is white, black, or brown. And you are trying a little. Are things at the worst point in history for police brutality? No way. All statistics and my own observation over that last 30+ years seem to indicate that things are getting better. Maybe training. Maybe less pressure on cops as crime is down in general. But are we all the way there yet? Not yet. Are all cops bad? No way. Most are not. Cops have helped me a few times over the years when my car has broken down on the highway. Even when a local bank teller called the cops on me for some suspicion that I could not understand, the cops were polite and apologized after their checking. Do bank tellers do that often, I wonder. Do cops face dangerous situations often? Yes. Will they make mistakes under presssure? Yes. So if protester comes too close to them with a phone and almost onto his body, a pushback by the cop is understandable, But you cannot defend the cop for spitting on the prone protester, as he passes him. -Arun