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To: JMD who wrote (7725)	1/29/1998 2:00:00 PM
From: bananawind	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Now that's the Mike we know! I hereby revoke my Lester the Jester comment. Just out of curiosity, where's the later-day A-bomb in this analogy? And I see you got your tero wish....care to try for good old upchuckj? -JLF

To: JMD who wrote (7725)	1/29/1998 2:08:00 PM
From: Greg B.	Respond to of 152472

And the spin continues.... Nokia President and CEO Jorma Ollila Makes Statement On ETSI Decision On 3rd Generation Technology - Positive for Entire Wireless Industry HELSINKI, Finland--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 29, 1998--At a 3rd generation work-group meeting held in Paris, ETSI (European Telecommunication Standards Institute) today announced its decision for the future Universal Mobile Telecommunication Service (UMTS) technology to be based on Wideband Code Division Multiple Access (WCDMA) radio access technology with certain key features of Time Division/Code Division Multiple Access (TD/CDMA) incorporated. Nokia is satisfied with ETSI's unanimous conclusion to support this single technology solution. Commenting on the ETSI 3rd generation solution, Nokia President and CEO Jorma Ollila stated, ''We are pleased with ETSI's decision to back this optimal UMTS technology solution facilitating an open global system, which is also backed by key Japanese players. It will be beneficial to equipment manufacturers, operators and end-users globally,'' Ollila added. ''Nokia strongly believes that harmonizing standards is a cost efficient solution that will be advantageous for the entire wireless industry. Therefore, we welcome this UMTS decision, which will be based on WCDMA technology and some key features of TD/CDMA technology. WCDMA provides wide area, cellular-type services and TD/CDMA provides low mobility, indoor-type applications.'' ''Nokia believes this is a major step towards the wireless information society that we envision. UMTS ensures a secure migratory path for existing GSM operators as it is the most widely used and proven core network technology,'' said Ollila. The new UMTS technology will provide wideband wireless multimedia capabilities over mobile telephone networks, allowing for the introduction of personalized, innovative video, Internet/Intranet and high-speed data services. The future networks utilizing WCDMA radio access technology will accelerate capacity improvements, make high-speed mass communications fully possible and enable the introduction of this extensive range of new services, leading to even higher global volumes, economies of scale and rapid further development towards a wireless world. Nokia is actively developing 3rd generation technologies to be standardised in Europe, Japan and the USA. The company has studied WCDMA radio technology since the early 1990s, demonstrating the viability of WCDMA for data intensive applications in its fully operational test bed. In addition, Nokia is participating in NTT DoCoMo's extensive and ambitious test network project. Headquartered in Finland, Nokia is a leader in digital technologies including mobile phones, cellular and fixed telecommunications networks, wireless data solutions and multimedia terminals. With sales in approximately 130 countries, net sales totaled $8.5 billion (FIM 39.3 billion) in 1996. Nokia employs more than 36,000 people in 45 countries. Nokia's shares are listed in Helsinki, New York, London, Stockholm, Frankfurt and Paris. Find us at www.nokia.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Contact: Nokia Telecommunications Ms. Arja Suominen, Vice President, Communications Tel. +358 9 5113 8193

To: JMD who wrote (7725)	1/29/1998 6:13:00 PM
From: Asterisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

sometimes you have to pick your fights. It seems to me to be a waste of time to reblast him when the rotweieler did such a good job. I have much beter things to do with my time than waste it on ignoramuses with no clue to reality. I fought chuckj and that I think was enough. Some people know your buttons and others don't Tero is a waste of time for me when Qdog is so efficient in his ripping him apart.

To: JMD who wrote (7725)	1/30/1998 8:16:00 AM
From: qdog	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Japan and Europe both started anew. Japan embraced a gringo production method, Demming. He a hero at Toyota. Technology is changing rapidly. Data is consuming 2 to 1 the bandwidth capacity of the fiber system presently. Europe is in catch up mode, as is the rest of the world. CDMA, as attested by Ericssons proposal to ETSI, is a future wave. They didn't invent it. All they are doing is using a wider channel to deliver it. They coukdn't make it work before and instead focus on a dying standard that won't meet data requirements. Now that they have realized a REAL CDMA, we are suppose to jump through hoops to believe it will cure all ills. Crank up the Lawyers. Ericsson can yap all they care to, but they will be using QCOM's patents to deliver all but the channel bandwidth. All esle will be the same. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, shits like a duck....yep it's still a duck.