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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (330865)	9/17/2020 1:44:33 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361973

yet we do not get them do we ? Merely :) be happy I do not go on about how California is a terrible offender :)

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (330865)

9/17/2020 2:34:06 PM

From: Wharf Rat

Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 361973

LA , and, in fact, California should be able to do anything Australia can do, but it's gonna take more than just solar and battery storage. Fortunately, we have wind, hydro, geothermal, a little biogas, out-of-state exporters, and additional forms of storage.

South Australia solar power reaches 94 pct of state demand on Sunday

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"But Los Angeles also needs consistent electricity after the four hour batteries have run down, "

I tend to see the state in terms of what I would need. I'm solar, but use the grid as my battery. If I disconnect, I could plug in my creek for a few months, but I don't think it started flowing until Dec. last year. I don't normally get a lot of wind, and if the skies are cloudy all day, with lots of discouraging words, but without rain, I might make 1 KWH. Last week, Tues was so dark that the system shut down for a few hours, and after that, there was enuf juice to activate the inverter, but that was it. The next day, I made a grand total of 0.1 KWH. I figure I need 3 months storage, and so does the state.

We really need more Pumped hydro storage. We need other long-term storage, like rail,

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gravity storage , compressed air, or some other electrochemical design, and, I think, hydrogen.

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Calif. should be able to do it by (checks his watch) 11:30, PST, , 9/17/45.

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (330865)	9/17/2020 3:02:57 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361973

Current solar panels perform best in clear cold climates Along the 401 in Ontario they are very evident but often snow covered in winter.. add to that along the lakes it is humid year round.. Not really a good idea there.. but government gets to say look look how green we are :( I still see that more local initiatives are required.. a mix of wind/solar/hydro... hydro being just as good as any carbon based solution... as a baseline.. Small local reactors whiter Thorium or whatever can also provide a baseline.. regardless NICE to see coal being abandoned... I see domed cities powered by local renewables in the future.. Not talking total dome but lots of covered walkways, bike ways... gardens.. etc etc.. IF we are serious... Elroy I think this is definitely an issue where you and I can have a distinct and clear meeting of the minds :)