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To: tshane who wrote (6941)1/29/1998 10:41:00 PM
From: TD  Respond to of 116759
 
Respect your views... Remember GOLD is GOD with an "L" in it! James Dines

Yes gold does represent honesty, integrety, and is constant throughout the universe, a troy ounce of gold remains a troy ounce of gold. However Federal Reserve Notes are ??



To: tshane who wrote (6941)1/29/1998 10:45:00 PM
From: bobby beara  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116759
 
Gold is Good, Amen!?!



To: tshane who wrote (6941)1/29/1998 11:00:00 PM
From: CIMA  Respond to of 116759
 
The only thing about this gunfight is that one guy has a machine gun while the other has ball and powder. In that case it doesn't matter what's mixed in with the powder 'cause he ain't gonna have time to draw.



To: tshane who wrote (6941)1/30/1998 1:08:00 AM
From: D LEE  Respond to of 116759
 
"What makes Saddam any more dangerous than Kadhafi? Or Yeltsin?
Or Suharto? Can anyone shed any light on this one?"


To me, returning to and addressing the Sadam incident is
a distraction to give rise to "honor" and "thoughts"
that we're really getting great things done. I'm impressed
in the opposite way.

When we did it the first time, I thought it was neat and
underhanded how U. S. was returned cash for some otherwise
depreciating military weapons. I didn't like the taste
of this new world order stuff as well. It has some warrish
inflection about it where no one needs to take the blame,
and is probably necessary with the death of communism.
Nothing to fear now but fear itself?

But now nations can flock together with strangely communistic
interests to beat up on a scape goat "even in the name of Allah".
Some can kick back cash, or send a few boats, and it's
really nobody's fault, and supposedly for the good of all.

Comically, I see Sadam as useful while he lives. Clinton can
raise his great cloak and kick him around. He provides a
distraction from greater worldly problems much as a football
does when we mortals watch a game on TV.

The problem is this "new world order" itself. It will show
to us as such when we start getting kicked around. Too bad!
It doesn't even seem so hot to me now.
Yesterday I heard on the radio of Canadian fears,
they may be living under U. S. flags in 10 years. Still sounds
OK until we remember there's a little place called China,
over populated, and welcomed to think we are growing their
wheat!

I'm taking this too far because it's only necessary to say
the attempts at economic distortion are "band-aids" and will not last
as long as those who applied them would like. It will be
harder and harder to keep them in place until the game
isn't worth the candle, and then it will be too late.

All this new found power is the Cowboy and Indian stage of
things to come, and strangely enough the latest casualty
has been the value of gold in an attempt to keep things
moving right along. We must be the judge of what to place
our value on, and I'm registering a little cool about the
international distorting trend that has begun. Somehow,
some day, I think I may even smell Hitler mentality
for the first time, but people will be running around
with gold under their hats long before then.

Dave



To: tshane who wrote (6941)1/30/1998 5:19:00 AM
From: Bobby Yellin  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116759
 
I too see Gold as a symbol for God in the same way you do. I see
the book of Job differently. I see it as one of the most loving books in
Old Testament. I see it as a message from the sages
as how to live life amid all the suffering that goes on but also as
a way to get rid of a lot of the suffering.
The book asks what wisdom is-. it says fear of God and understanding
is shown through avoiding evil(I interpret that to mean ones own actions and also
staying away from people who do evil). If people believed this, the world would be
empty of evil ..and people would become as pure as gold.
By fearing God, they would gain consciousness that just maybe they will be held responsible for the consequences of their actions and not assume that they can get away with anything.(reminds me of little children who fear parents when they are around and then do their thing when the parents are absent.) The point is that if there is the great unknown,the great unknown is never absent.
Job was cursed by his "sense of righteousness"..in a sense he was putting himself on the same level as God..he assumed he knew the unknowable..he assumed he knew the force that could cause tidal waves and earthquakes ..his experiences taught him to be humble and to not question. As a result, a huge burden was removed from his shoulder and once again he became the child with the omniscient unknown. He no longer tried to control the "uncontrollable", and simply resumed his life as a God fearing man who avoided evil. He had never wavered from that path..never cursed out God..even with all his compound misfortunes.There is always reference to that throughout the book. "His friends" were the people that were always pointing the finger and again never doing self reflection on how they conducted
their own lives."his friends" to me are symbolic of the why most humans think.They blamed Job for his misfortunes as a way to escape that possibly misfortunes could befall them..they were not his friends..they were not supportive but accusatory..
In the end, when Job's huge burden of self righteousness was removed
and he became the child again, all his fortunes were returned and then
some. He let go..
In the I Ching, Book of Chinese wisdom, hexagram 51 contains a similar
message of fearing the great unknown..examining ones own behavior and
then being liberated from all earthly terrors...laughter and merriment
can follow.
To me Book of Job is incredibly liberating and shows possibly the loving nature
of the great unknowable..
bobby