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To: carranza2 who wrote (734908)	12/14/2020 2:26:05 PM
From: kech	2 Recommendations Recommended By bejay pheilman_ Respond to of 793656

If not the GOP, what? Right. Don't forget what happened to Teddy Roosevelt and his Bull - Moose (kind of like MAGA) party in 1912. He lost. The mainstream (Wall Street) Republican William Howard Taft lost. And Woodrow Wilson the progressive won. And that was the start of our problems.

To: carranza2 who wrote (734908)	12/14/2020 2:27:25 PM
From: Berk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793656

I don't think that you can separate them. Neither Repub will win if you have the same degree of fraud in the run off election that you had in November. I live in Georgia and they're already blasting us with mail in voting which is very subject to "traditional " fraud. That and the Dominion machines will determine who wins. beta.documentcloud.org

To: carranza2 who wrote (734908)	12/14/2020 2:39:59 PM
From: rxbond	Respond to of 793656

-The GOP should have been focusing its efforts 24/7 on Georgia- They have, that's the problem. Should of been focusing on Trump instead. Imagine what could be accomplish if we had

To: carranza2 who wrote (734908)	12/14/2020 2:48:35 PM
From: DMaA	1 Recommendation Recommended By D. Long Respond to of 793656

What if the strongest hand we've got is a a losing hand? They need to understand it's Trump's party or no party.

To: carranza2 who wrote (734908)	12/14/2020 4:19:10 PM
From: skinowski	3 Recommendations Recommended By Berk locogringo Maple MAGA Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 793656

Yes, I'll take a GOP RINO before I can stomach a Dem socialist. Agree 100%... also, on the 3rd party movement. It is NOT an option. That’s why I think the real fighting should be for the direction of the GOP. We need to borrow a page from the Dem socialist’s playbook — they are NOT separating into an independent movement (wouldn’t that be sweet?). They are fighting hard for control of the Dem party. Their strategy is to radicalize the Dems. And, they’re succeeding. We must make MAGA into an important force within the GOP. About Trump’s litigations... my fear, actually, was that he and the GOP would concede - and walk away, like the gentlemen and ladies they’ve been known to be. I think Trump is doing the country a great service by fighting - and mercilessly rubbing in - the fact that the election had been (likely) decisively manipulated. Accepting a fraudulent election without a big fight would have been a grave mistake. What could the GOP ever expect if they’re OK with such elections? Inter alia, it would likely encourage more fraud in Georgia, come January. So, yes, there is a certain risk in what Trump is doing — but I sense that his instinct is correct on this one.