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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (16923)	2/1/1998 12:14:00 AM
From: Justin Banks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Bill - Justin, I think NT will be able to do that in 1999, NT keeps advancing. Do you have any facts to back this up, or is it just a gut feeling? NT scaleability (SMP, not clustering), is quite limited, at least partially due to it's close similarity to Mach. What does SUN OS do that it did not do last year? Why is SUN oS in decline? I don't know much about Solaris (except that I've never really liked it much), so you're probably asking the wrong person. Irix, though, has incorporated lots of new features in the last year, one of which is scaleability that has never been seen in a popular OS (for some reasonable definition of popular). Is it just the huge bunch of software that NT will run?, or is the extra high price of SUN stuff(on recently did the price drop) I believe that NT's success is at least partially due to the hoodwinking of MIS managers, ala MSFT's 'scaleability day' last year. If you tell them that NT can save them $x/year TCO, they're going to believe it. What they don't realize until later is NT's 'cost creep'. Sure, it's a cheap system, but to approach the same level of utility that you get with your typical Unix system you've got to spend a couple of thousand on third party stuff and other add-ons. While this is likely to get better with NT5 (if/when it ships), it still won't approach the usability, maintainability, and scaleability of Unix. Administrating an NT system is a nightmare, and consumes much more resources than Unix. You get back to me when NT gets TPC numbers in the 40k to 50k range, with a single system image (no clusters, they're a nightmare), and we'll talk. Sure, it will happen, but when, and how much more will Unix systems improve by then? SUN must change this year to survive. Actually, I agree. Sun must offer an NT box for those customers whose problems are well served by an NT solution in order to keep/get those customers. I don't think they will, though, and I hope they don't. I would just as soon be able to sell such people an SGI NT box, if they're really set on NT. What I hear you saying is that NT is soon to be a 'one size fits all' solution. This is madness, and will only serve to further impede the progress of technical computing. -justinb