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To: Lane3 who wrote (202593)6/19/2021 11:36:36 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361159
 
I really think that a great way to teach black history to the people that need to learn it would be to erect a monument to every lynching, at the place where the lynching occurred. Sometimes it was worse than lynching:

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To: Lane3 who wrote (202593)6/19/2021 11:49:42 AM
From: combjelly  Respond to of 361159
 
I think part of the reaction has been triggered by the 1619 project. Which does have as a goal to get some of the materials into the schools. Those materials do challenge some of the cultural myths about 1776 and other events. Given the uproar some time ago about Christopher Columbus and the New World, well...

I will point out that the foundational myths are very important to fascist regimes. The issues need to be very black and white. With the founders being larger than life and pure in thought, word and deed. Any critical analysis that reveals thinks were more of a murky gray is an existential threat.



To: Lane3 who wrote (202593)6/19/2021 12:10:46 PM
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>> The problem is that I haven't seen said serious effort. I've only seen the outraged resistance. So it looks like culture warriors stoking issue where there is none.

CRT is a contradiction of what MLK gave his life for. To me, King was the gold standard in how to deal with the problems between the races, and I believe his teachings did more to alleviate the problems between races than anything ever tried in this country. Since 2008, there has been a strong push to re-ignite racism as a hot spot in the United States, one deliberately put forward by Obama from his early days, and one that is now continuing on under Biden.

Obama is a racist hothead, and we saw that on display time and again, starting with the Henry Louis Gates affair, which was appalling to me.

CRT is everything King wasn't. He understood the problem but he recognized it wasn't a permanent affliction that was somehow untreatable. I think the actor Morgan Freemen, when asked about racism had it about right -- "Stop talking about it." When the public gets stirred up about race it just fans the flames.

Our race problems in this country were just fine until you had this black president trying to make the argument that we are a racist country, which is absurd on its face. Obama wasn't elected by the 13% of Americans who are black. His election was intended as a repudiation against years of racism from before. I thought his election was a terrible event because he was was incompetent, but there was no denying it was a proud day for all Americans that we had finally overcome our racist past. But he couldn't let it be.

The racism found here today almost exclusively is within the black community.

Before coming where I am now, I lived in what had once been one of the most racist areas in the country. Growing up, before the CRA, we had all the signs of a thriving racist community -- in my early school years we had absolute segregation -- "they" had schools, and "we" had schools. There was no time at which black children would ever come to know white children.

Today, in that town, white kids and black kids play together, date and marry, have kids of their own and live their lives without a moment's thought about it. To argue that is racism is an absurdity.

Let's be clear about what we do have. Blacks killing blacks. It isn't whites killing blacks in the streets. It is blacks doing it. Almost all black handgun murders are carried out by other backs. Blacks, not whites, have made Memphis a place where it is unsafe to exist regardless of skin color. You cannot blame whites for that.


It totally shoots a hole in CRT as a thing. The idea there is racism fomented by whites is an absurdity.


You cannot require whites to move into areas blacks have turned into war zones. That is not what MLK was about. You cannot require while children to go to school with black kids who pose a threat to them.
We have given black neighborhoods trillions. Trump provided good paying jobs for blacks and Hispanics alike, and you on the left were outraged at him because it took away your political power. I'm not sure WTF you want but it isn't peace between blacks and whites.