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To: carranza2 who wrote (174594)	7/11/2021 1:57:29 AM
From: Maple MAGA	3 Recommendations Recommended By maceng2 Mick Mørmøny sense Respond to of 218882

"The liberation from fear has been terrific." "The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear what will become of you, depend on no one. Only the moment you reject all help are you freed.” “Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. “ “Ennui has made more gamblers than avarice, more drunkards than thirst, and perhaps as many suicides as despair. “ “In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then believe them to be true. “ “It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell. “ “No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. “ “To be idle is a short road to death and to be diligent is a way of life; foolish people are idle, wise people are diligent. “ “Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others." Buddha "We fear men so much, because we fear God so little. One fear cures another. When man's terror scares you, turn your thoughts to the wrath of God." "Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all." "If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it...The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason." "Idolatry is committed, not merely by setting up false gods, but also by setting up false devils; by making men afraid of war or alcohol, or economic law, when they should be afraid of spiritual corruption and cowardice." "Without education, we are in a horrible and deadly danger of taking educated people seriously." G.K. Chesterton

To: carranza2 who wrote (174594)	7/11/2021 3:23:55 AM
From: sense	3 Recommendations Recommended By maceng2 Maple MAGA SirWalterRalegh Respond to of 218882

A couple of things... You repeat "in a small percentage of cases" over and over... as if that is all and only what is possible ? Why ? That leads into the next... which is that you assume that all the risks are fully known ? Why ? Not in yours... but in reality... there are known risks... that people getting the vaccines are NOT being told about... ? Why ? And, last... Please note that the vaccines would have never been approved if ... You need to note carefully... THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED... They have been issued an emergency exemption from approval... by the same people who lied to you repeatedly about things like masks being unnecessary (because they wanted the masks for themselves)... and then changed to say it was critically important for you to comply with mandated masking requirements... using masks that don't work ? The same people pushing vaccines... when there are small drugs that prevent viral replication... which under the rules... require using the drugs... not making vaccines ? They are still "experimental medicines"... and NOT vaccines... BY DEFINITION... in two different ways... There is now mounting pressure to approve them... not because they have met any of the criteria to be approved... but because... politics... much like the disastrous recent approval of a new Alzheimer's drug... which NONE of the science reviewers had agreed should be approved... You trust them... in spite of SERIAL PROOFS they should not be trusted ? Why ? I'm also not opposed to the "idea" of a proper immunization... but know full well that is not what is on offer. I think "they" represent a vastly larger risk to me... than the virus does... But, the "position on the line" from which I observe this imbroglio... might give me a different view of it... ?

To: carranza2 who wrote (174594)	7/11/2021 5:32:43 AM
From: sense	1 Recommendation Recommended By pak73 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218882

If someone is willing to accept some small percentage of both non-serious and serious outcomes, then the choice is clear... Yes, it is... if someone knows and is willing to accept the risks... then they should take the risks, if that makes most sense to them. But, that is still not the same thing as simply accepting the risks and NOT doing anything else to limit risks ? Not getting the jab... doesn't leave you powerless and unable to do anything else to modify your own risks ? especially because the consequences for the elderly, obese, diabetic, immuno-suppressed, etc., are so drastic. How drastic are they ? The risks have changed as treatments have improved. Still best to avoid becoming infected, of course... particularly for those in higher risk groups... But, THAT IS NOT HARD TO DO... and it is or it would be particularly easy... if they simply gave people the drugs that they know prevent the virus propagating. But, while that approach contains LESS risk... THERE'S NOT AS MUCH MONEY IN THAT... That they're not helping as much as they could... while only offering what works less well that makes them more money ? Avoiding what they want... still requires taking action yourself on those things that you need to protect yourself... all the more now, as the vaccine facilitates the virus mutating at a more rapid pace... Those who are not willing to accept small risks are playing COVID-19 roulette. In my estimation, the chances of getting the disease are significantly higher than the risk of a serious untoward outcome caused by a vaccination. I think your calculus is WAY off... particularly in relation to what the scale of the risks in being jabbed are... which you are simply assuming "must be small"... or they'd not give you the jab. That's just wrong. The immediate impacts of the jab are not all small... and the long term impacts of it are not all known... but, it is a known that there are future risks that are not small... There are both immediate and now becoming better known risks in the first generation of vaccinations... and also potential and potentially very large future risks... which everyone is just ignoring. And that's just wrong. But, the relative value of the risks taken... also has to be weighed against the potential benefits... and since the benefits don't include "immunity"... and don't include protection against future variants... the value of the benefit is also being oversold... at the same time that the risks are being underplayed... And, clocks are still ticking... BETTER vaccines "should be" out "soon"... including ones that do confer immunity... and do that broadly protect against any related variant... without the same risks that the current crop carry... But, those might have been slowed down a bit... as a function of the unexpected nature of the issues being encountered in the vaccines that have been given a waiver to be used without approval as experimental drugs. The next generation... are not going to get the waiver... but will have to be approved. So, also time functions to consider... in relation to current and future risks... but also in relation to current and future vaccines... Note, also, "the chances of getting the disease are significantly higher"... than the risk of getting the disease causing a serious problem... and that remains true, even among higher risk groups, now... who no longer suffer the same much higher mortality rates as initially in the early stages of the pandemic. Early treatment if you do get infected... is usually enough to obviate any serious impacts... The risks if you don't seek early treatment... do become much greater. And, if in a high risk group, and you also get care from people who are not willing to do what works... either because they are Christian Scientists... or because, the same thing, they have a fervent and unfounded faith in the judgments of the CDC... declaring that Ivermectin doesn't work ? Trump got it... he's high risk... also got Ivermectin and said it worked as a curative in less than a day ? How many of those who died... got Ivermectin on their first day after diagnosis ? But, I take it that your radical change in opinion... from full on anti-vaxer last year... to seeing no risks worth avoiding in the jab now... has a reason behind it ?