SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : Intel Corporation (INTC) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Road Walker who wrote (47241)2/5/1998 8:47:00 AM
From: Chip Roos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul:
I saw that ad last night and would like to see Apple pick up some lost ground. However, as one who switched from Mac to Pentium II (an old Mac) a few months ago, I can tell you that I would never go back. And I suspect I am not alone. Mac waited too long and lost too much marketshare.

Cute ad but where's the beef??

Chip



To: Road Walker who wrote (47241)2/9/1998 9:33:00 PM
From: Eric Yang  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Don't mean to intrude this board but I dropped in to read a few posts because someone from AAPL's board asked me about Paul's earlier comment. I'm a diehard Mac user...but don't worry I'm not here to flame. Just to clarify a few things regarding Apple's snail ad. It's in QuickTime format for those of you with fast connections (2.4MB)
apple.com

Paul's assessment is fairly accurate regarding PPC vs Pentium. PowerPC currently has about a 15% lead against Pentium IIs in SPECint. The lead was slightly higher back in the days of Pentium & Pentium Pros..especially in fp functions but certainly wasn't 2X as fast or anything close to that.

However, SPEC benchmark are obtained under ideal conditions. It doesn't always reflect how a processor will perform in real world conditions. For example, IBM&MOT have tweaked the PPC750 in order to optimize it for MacOS, and added support for backside cache. The MacOS optimization doesn't show up in SPEC benchmark and the benefit of backside cache isn't always apparent in souped up systems that already keeps the processor well fed with instructions. However, under real world conditions, these and other enhancements makes the mid-range G3 Macs about 2X as fast as last year's 200MHz 604e based Macs.

Apple's new "snail&PentiumII" ad claims that G3 PowerMacs based on 266MHz PowerPC 750 is up to 2X as fast as PCs based on 300MHz Pentium IIs. The results are based on BYTEmark integer tests comparing PowerMac G3/266, Compaq 5100/PII 300 and, Compaq 4860/PII 333. As you know BYTE mark consists of a set of well know real-world routines for solving mathmatic and other problem...etc.
apple.com

PPC 750 is about 1/3 the size of Pentium II and draws about 5.7 watts as compared to Pentium IIs which draws about 35-45 watts. One would think that PowerPC should cost a lot less due to its much smaller size..however, Intel's much higher production volume keeps Pentiums very price competitive.

The only PowerPC running at the 1.0GHz range is a IBM PowerPC integer processor. It's a "integer" processor not a full-blown PowerPC. 500MHz PowerPC 750 with copper interconnect as well G4 processors (multiple-processor in a single package) should be out in late 1998-early 1999.

Eric
macevolution.com