To: Sun Tzu who wrote (35957 ) 9/5/2021 4:30:09 PM From: roto Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 97962 OT "Trump pushing to leave Afghanistan in May was a great statesmanship ending our forever wars. Biden doing it is the end of American leadership" I'm in the Balkans and if one does a little googling, they would realize a lot of shit has happened here for well over two thousand years. As it exists today, things are somewhat politically & economically improved, by this, no one is dying from war and the market economy doing just okay, mostly because of tourism. But the covid thing.. Religion dominates within each border, and Biden's hasty departure leaves a lot of question marks, since there is of course the influx of refugees from the middle- East wars & now Afghanistan. In addition, you've got the 'boat people' from Africa traversing S.Europe to places much further to the north. The only problem I have with Biden is his method of hasty retreat. If my memory serves correctly, he was on- board for that idiotic Bush2 war.. the invasion of the wrong country. His stupid 'get on- board' vote.. what, political safety in numbers? But, there is an underlying brilliance to the current Afghan madness.. that being, Biden punted that can of worms to the Chinese. Now, that will probably delay any warlike dreams Xi Jinping has the South China Sea & especially, Taiwan. China needs stability on their restive Western border and now the Taliban's new weaponry poses uncertainty. There are no guarantees of whatever, but I'm thinking China may serve a purpose, but at what cost. So, I do not like the looks of that Afghan fiasco, but I defer my opinion on Biden to see if this is his China chess move. For Trump.. he's America's embarrassment, a stain .