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To: TobagoJack who wrote (178467)	9/17/2021 7:54:17 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 217735

fun read, the illuminating comment from freedom fry folks zerohedge.com France Recalls Ambassadors To US & Australia, Outraged Over Submarine DealFrance's foreign minister Jean-Yves Le Drian late on Friday confirmed France has recalled its ambassadors to the United States and Australia in protest of the landmark pact between the US, UK and Australia announced Wednesday, which will see Washington assist Australia with nuclear-powered submarine development. Paris says the ambassadors were called back for "consultations" - also citing comments made by Australia and the US after the 'AUKUS' was announced. Le Drian earlier described Australia's scrapping of the €50 billion deal for France to deliver submarines, which had been negotiated since 2016, "a stab in the back." Via Reuters France had further called Australia's cancelation of the agreement a "unilateral, brutal, unpredictable decision." The initial French sub contract with Australia, which had been first agreed to in 2016, was for France to build 12 conventionally powered submarines modelled on Barracuda nuclear-powered subs. Australia has never possessed nuclear-powered subs, and with this new US technology sharing partnership is expected to soon join an elite few number of powerful countries who operate nuclear submarines globally. BREAKING: Wow… France has decided to immediately recall its ambassadors to the U.S. & Australia to Paris for consultations following defence deal, AUKUS. It’s at request of Macron. French foreign ministry says deal represents “unacceptable behavior between allies and partners”. pic.twitter.com/H1qonSXpWv — Andrew Connell (@andrewiconnell) September 17, 2021 "It’s really a stab in the back. We had established a relationship of trust with Australia, this trust has been betrayed," French foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, said Thursday just as Joe Biden and Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced the deal, which is widely seen as aimed at countering China's growing power in the Indo-Pacific. EU foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell also expressed shock, saying "This alliance we have only just been made aware and we weren’t even consulted," he said, also indicating he only found out through media reports. "As high representative for security, I was not aware and I assume that an agreement of such a nature wasn’t just brought together overnight. I think it would have been worked on for quite a while." "We regret not having been informed – not having been part of these talks," Borrell added. "We weren’t included, we weren’t part and parcel of this." But perhaps the fiercest words signaling that the France-Australia trade relationship has suffered irreparable damage in the wake of the trio's 'AUUKUS' deal have come from France's European Affairs Minister Clement Beaune on Friday. He said "trust" has been seriously damaged after Australia suddenly terminated the contract to buy French submarines: "We're having trade negotiations with Australia. I don't see how we can trust our Australian partners," Beaune said. The European Commission and Australia earlier this year concluded an 11th round of negotiations, with the next round set for later this year. Friday's follow-up announcement informing countries of the recalled ambassadors cited "unacceptable behavior between allies and partners"and was ordered by French President Emmanuel Macron.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (178467)	9/17/2021 10:45:25 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217735

What is the fuss? I know with a choice of diesel or nuclear No self respecting navy would chose diesel. Speed is a significant tactical factor, as it determines maneuverability and the ability to quickly change depth with flow over the hydroplanes. Nuclear power provides attack submarines with a sustained submerged speed of more than 30 knots, considerably greater than any contemporary diesel submarine.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (178467)	9/19/2021 10:27:08 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217735

Re <<AUKUS might go RAWKUS, for the Economist article hints at almost-inevitabilities, and it sure looks like that besides the Aussies, others might have not thought through the issues, what we might term TwoAPuc, The Worst of All Possible Unintended Consequences, that nuke subs can be marketed by anyone with such technology, and bought by everyone who wishes to engage, in a rule-based world. By the looks of Australia AUKUS deal sure looks like Iran is an eligible buyer for nuclear-powered but not nuclear-armed submarines, along with Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Venezuela, N Korea, and even Belarus if the below logic goes main-stream, as it is arguable where on the cretinocracy meter the named states are at>> 3 days from the post re nukes for propagation, and N Korea checks in at the lobby ... Well done, Team Biden, or medium rare? bloomberg.com North Korea Warns of ‘Nuclear Arms Race’ After AUKUS Subs Deal Youkyung Lee 20 September 2021, 08:39 GMT+8 North Korea warned of a “nuclear arms race” after the U.S. and U.K. agreed to give Australia technology to build nuclear-powered submarines, and vowed to take counteraction for any adverse impact on its own security. “These are extremely undesirable and dangerous acts which will upset the strategic balance in the Asia-Pacific region and trigger off a chain of nuclear arms race,” the official Korean Central News Agency said Monday, citing a North Korean Foreign Ministry official. North Korea’s remarks echoed those last week from China, which decried the move by the U.S. and U.K. to help Australia build nuclear submarines as stoking an “ arms race.” The Biden administration has been struggling to assuage French anger over Australia’s surprise decision to abandon a multibillion-dollar submarine contract with France in favor of U.S. technology. The White House’s argument that the deal will improve security in the Indo-Pacific region “amounts to a stand that any country can spread nuclear technology if it is in its interests,” the unnamed foreign ministry official said, according to KCNA. The official accused the U.S. of “toppling the international nuclear non-proliferation system.” North Korea withdrew from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty in 2003, and has since assembled an arsenal of nuclear weapons and developed the missiles to fire them. “The prevailing situation shows once again that bolstering the capabilities for national defense from a long-term perspective should not be slackened even a bit,” the KCNA report said. It added that North Korea will take “a corresponding counteraction in case it has even a little adverse impact on the security of our country.” Before it's here, it's on the Bloomberg Terminal. LEARN MORE