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To: koan who wrote (480753)10/4/2021 10:50:15 PM
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Kip S
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Frankly, I would much prefer a quote from sort of online source. I'm not interested enough in this conversation to listen to an 18 minute lecture. Well, tell you what, if you will tell me the time points within the lecture in which he makes those points, that might help.

But back to the negative stuff about the last century. In my view, any serious argument that life is unquestionably better over the last century than previous centuries, needs to go into detail. Just a gross over generalization without them. Living standards are better; tools for violence are more extreme; ethnic slaughter is in much larger numbers (the holocaust is just an illustration). Totalitarianism is on the rise--Hungary, Turkey, Poland, stronger elements within the US, France, Germany, and Italy. And on and on.

The problem with these kinds of over generalizations is they are their own worst enemy. They don't persuade; they either get in the way of clear thinking or become their own criticism.



To: koan who wrote (480753)10/5/2021 9:42:55 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540859
 
while I am at it charles.. you do not need explain yourself to me.. mostly I am in your camp.. I just think you mistakenly expect too much of your countrymen ... (not that mine are any better before I draw flack LOL) Mine have the added problem of thinking they are better than you guys