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To: Amots who wrote (3142)	2/7/1998 1:38:00 PM
From: GrandPohba	Respond to of 3906

Nice post, Batman. thanks. Let's see how these folks handle accurate, factual information. I doubt if they will take it well. Somehow, I get the feeling that the only people who hold shares in this company are the handful of suckers we see posting here and management. A while back I posted that I had a friend who had $32,000 stuck in this dog. I spoke with him this morning, he's finally decided to sell his shares. He's selling first thing Monday morning. GP

To: Amots who wrote (3142)	2/7/1998 2:24:00 PM
From: Batman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3906

..............atomic batteries to power...........turbines to speed............... This is Batman. Remain calm, citizens. Amots, Thanks for the CFE encouragement. Now I am going to fill you in on the real world, how to do real DD, how pros do it. I have known for some time that the on-line EDGAR 144 page doesn't list all 144's filed (in fact, it lists very few of them). I haven't enquired why. I just use Bloomberg instead. In case you do not know, Bloomberg is a professional trading screen--you can rent one for about $1,000 per month in your own home. You can call the SEC however and get the full rundown that way. Now I am going to give you a bag of sick. The following is a summary of the 144 filings made by See and crew last year from Bloomberg (the date is the date of the filing, not the date of the trades, which are spread over a number of days shortly before the filing date): Jackie R See Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares 03-Feb-97 87,500 24-May-97 20,000 Bio-Sphere Technology Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares 17-Apr-97 152,200 Anita Wassgren See Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares 21-Feb-97 50,000 Dr Darryl M See Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares 22-Jan-97 30,000 13-Feb-97 10,000 08-Mar-97 10,000 28-Mar-97 2,500 ? 10,000 David J See Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares 13-Feb-97 20,000 Eric Savage Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares Mar-96 34,375 Apr-96 5,000 May-96 21,000 Jul-96 5,000 ? 9,625 22-May-97 20,000 26-Aug-97 12,500 Neal Armstrong Sales of HVSF Common Stock Date Shares 29-Jan-97 6,250 23-Apr-97 2,250 17-May-97 50,000 03-Oct-97 6,500 GRAND TOTAL: 564,700 shares sold by See and crew in 1997 Amots, that's 564,700 shares sold to the public by See. At, let's say, an average sales price of $7, that's somewhere north of $3.5 million that went from the public's hands into the pockets of See and crew. Enough said? The 144 listings on Bloomberg even give the broker that the various parties used. See initially sold through Bear Stearns, but later switched to some beast called "ACAP Financial". Anybody on the thread heard of these people? Are they con men? Is it a bucket shop? I've never heard of them. Call your broker tomorrow and he can confirm the above to you if you do not have a Bloomberg or Reuters terminal (Datastream, etc) in your home. If you would like to see the actual evidence, you can e-mail me your fax number, and I will fax you a copy of one of my Bloomberg printouts for one of See's sales of HVSF stock last year. Would the one confirming the sale at $9.50 ($95 in today's prices) be good enough for you? Again, thanks for the encouragement on my Certified Fraud Examiner exams. There's no substitute for ability. Batman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MASSIVE POST TO FOLLOW LATER TODAY