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To: didjuneau who wrote (332587)	2/1/2022 3:06:18 PM
From: DMaA	3 Recommendations Recommended By didjuneau Honey_Bee Stock Puppy Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 459299

I backed slightly into a snow bank and a censor popped out of the bumper. So it beeps like crazy when I back up. Called two Ford dealers. First said they don't deal with things like that and suggested I take it to a body shop. Second one said they'd have to take the bumper off. Probably $600 minimum. But I was welcome to make an appointment in 6 weeks. I'm gonna take it to a local guy. Probably take him 10 minutes.

To: didjuneau who wrote (332587)	2/1/2022 3:16:20 PM
From: Honey_Bee	1 Recommendation Recommended By Stock Puppy Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 459299

My daughter's new car is not self-driving, but it shuts off the engine when the car stops at lights, etc. I hate that feature and wouldn't have a car that did it. Even as a passenger I do not like having the car start itself when the light turns green and we want to go.

To: didjuneau who wrote (332587)	2/1/2022 8:06:00 PM
From: Stock Puppy	2 Recommendations Recommended By Honey_Bee Tom Clarke Respond to of 459299

I once rented a BMW (no I didn't - that's what they gave me as an "upgrade"). It kept shutting off on idle and restart when I put a little pressure on the accelerator. It did all sorts of weird things like open the trunk by itself when parked - good thing I wasn't in my usual kind of neighborhoods. No BMW for me. If I owned that car I would be at it with my wire cutters. I don't like high maintenance or psycho in my cars or my women. And that car was like some psycho women I once knew. Shudder. The interesting thing about electric heater in cars - some IC cars have electric heaters that go on when the car is cold. I've driven that - not bad. But not full time. At least in IC it uses waste energy for heating - at the start, engine runs faster and the increased load on the alt helps warm up the car.