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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (224760)2/2/2022 8:39:00 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 356113
 
I'm listening to how Trump, after he'd lost, ran off the only decent lawyer he had, Don McGhan, and plugged in Rudy Guliani. Rudy Guiliani perhaps could have hired some decent lawyers, but Rudy hooked Trump up with Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis.

This is total bullshit, because this woman is batshit crazy, but Trump said - 'Why not!' - Release the Kraken!:

She and Rudy have been silent since being sued by Dominion, all her 'evidence' has been completely shut down, debunked and refuted. This is the type of people who Trump is STILL listening to, to this day. As long as whatever lie he's being spun up with ends with him winning the election, he doesn't give a shit.



To: i-node who wrote (224760)2/2/2022 11:47:31 PM
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>When you are required to wear an idiot mask into the post office that is a removal of a freedom

O M G... the tyranny

in order to be a responsible citizen, and show respect to fellow citizens, it is expected for you to wear a mask for 3 minutes when you enter a Post Office

you poor poor mistreated snowflake... so unfair

Thank god there were not as many snowflakes back during WW2 or the world would have ended up in the hands of the Nazis... but apparently you would have preferred that

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To: i-node who wrote (224760)2/3/2022 9:14:31 AM
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When you are required to wear an idiot mask into the post office that is a removal of a freedom.

I never said or suggested otherwise. Quit reading into what I say.

I'm only saying that we willingly give up small freedoms every day to live in a supporting society. We drive on the right side of the road. We wear shirts and shoes when we enter a restaurant. We don't point and laugh at handicapped people. We don't spit on the sidewalk. We don't throw hazardous materials in the trash.

And we willingly give up more in a national emergency. In a representative government, it's a national emergency when our representatives say it is, not when we individually think it is. There is a benefit and a cost to living in society. Through social interaction and the political system, we bend towards keeping the costs down and agree, at least nominally, that the benefit far outweighs the cost.

This mask thing is totally out of proportion to the above. It's a small thing when weighed against the risk of the country falling apart. It's a small thing even on an absolute level. Even if masks are, indeed, virtually useless, we try to argue the point and perhaps prevail, but meanwhile we wear them because of the above, because it's the right thing to do.

So, making anti-masking into the cause celebre that it is has either or both of two bases. One is that the protesters are actively dispensing with the commonweal, overthrowing it. The other is that they are just a bunch of spoiled brats invoking sacred principles like freedom to rationalize their petty selfishness and wantonness.

Re the latter case, deplorable may be too generous a word. Re the former, if freedom truly is the alpha value, trumping all others, then we have anarchy and heaven help us.