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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: CentralParkRanger who wrote (224894)	2/4/2022 10:49:32 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 355127

Your natural conclusion is - it's not time yet for US to join civilized world, as soon as we still have discussions that other developed countries concluded about 100 years ago. Do you recall when mothers asked their kids about jumping off a bridge because everybody else was? Maybe they still do. There's a lesson in there. My "natural conclusion" is that everybody else doing it is not a good reason to do something. There's a technique used in consensus decision making called the five whys. It's used to get at the underlying reason. Someone asserts something like the subject of this discussion and the facilitator asks why. And keeps asking until the essential reason is found, usually accomplished in five or fewer whys. I presume that you have an underlying reason, either that you and your mom never had the bridge conversation. The reason I responded to your post was not to engage the desirability of universal health care. It was that you were expecting to once again to not go forward on universal health care and were disappointed. I pointed out, somewhat circuitously, perhaps, that you're preaching to the choir with that argument. If you want to succeed, you need an argument that reaches beyond those not automatically predisposed. we are destined to go backwards to dictatorship and oligarchy, join Russia and China in their club, and forget about democracy and decent healthcare for the all people. Since you brought it up, what do you see as the nexus between democracy and universal health care? That's a straight question. Given that one of the signature features of communist countries was universal health care. And that it is not favored by a majority in the US. I'm wondering why you associated the two.