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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (757495)	2/19/2022 8:45:56 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793622

The American left was in love with Gorby. They thought he was going to be the savior of communism. Only flowery praise came from Big Media. Time magazine named Gorbachev its "Man of the Decade" in early 1990. When he visited in 1990 (I remembered it as earlier than that, but I looked it up) he was treated as a rock star. When he visited the Twin Cities they threw a parade for him. People lined the street to cheer him as he passed (you wonder why the Twin Cities are in the mess they are?) Local TV stations broadcast it all live. Looking back at it it seems like the memory came from a fever dream but it's documented. When Gorbachev Visited Minnesota \| TPT Originals

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (757495)	2/19/2022 10:21:19 AM
From: skinowski	3 Recommendations Recommended By Arran Yuan Hoa Hao Roads End Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793622

Begging USA/NATO to stop didn't work. So here we go again. With Putin rattling his nukes to ensure MAD NATO warmongers get serious. That’s exactly what seems to be happening. Also, it’s a process in which time is a big factor. Things take time to sink in. The Russians kept about the same number of troops near Ukraine's border for a long time - but only in recent days, maybe weeks, NATO and other leaders recognized that something serious is taking place. By now, Joe Biden seems obsessed with this issue. By now, actually, if there is no invasion, Joe would look silly with his daily predictions. I don’t remember the details, but something somewhat similar happened during the NATO bombings of Serbia. That bombing happened against the strongest objections from Russia. No one gave a hoot about the fact that Russia participated in a number of wars (against Turkey, WWI) with the goal of helping their brothers the Serbs. Anyway, one early morning the NATO liberators discovered that there was a contingent of Russian troops, with tanks and all, occupying an airport in Kosovo. Some generals insisted that NATO should attack and teach them a lesson. Others answered, basically, that they’re not starting WWIII only because some of their esteemed colleagues are batsh*t crazy. Yeltsin response was… that he had no idea what happened, and that he never issued that order. The bombing of Serbia was - IMO - the beginning of the end of the new proximity between Russia and the West.