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To: TobagoJack who wrote (186578)4/19/2022 3:02:07 AM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218918
 
<<I shall call my nephew this day>>

Yes, a grand idea. Its most useful to capitalize on the threads international dimension and use our resources to seek a deeper understanding on relatively local sources on the current big news stories.

You use of the word "angonostic" is eloquent, or at least "handy" and I am thinking it should be a thread word rather then just the speciality of TJ? :-)

My brother is still in Keiv Ukraine, where expressing a Scott Ritter type view could easily be an almost instant death sentence... if your lucky.

I am understanding of Haims and other contributers perspective of the Russian and Ukraine situation. I appreciate thier input. I have always been taught to look at all the views and perspectives in important matters, and to me the Ukraine situation is important as both a European and British citizen.

My other brother in London already has his Irish Passport while my British Passport has expired. These action items are on my list of things to do.

A number of my closest relatives are continuously shocked and horrored by almost everything I say as it differers from the UK government and general UK press perspective. They wonder why I use sources that are obviously not officially recognised as true and genuine like those emanating from the likes of the Guardian newspaper and the European / British Parliament. Seemingly I am a whacky right wing conspiracy theorist who gets his info from loonies on FB and internet conspiracy web sites like Silicon Investor. This label I have been tarred with doesn't bother me too much as I feel confident I can exceed and improve upon such a reputation, but that only seems to cause more shock and horror. -g-

I did come across Gonzalo Lira's posts a while back. To me, he must of been a Russian Asset not in Ukraine. He was far too calm, collected, and smiley about the face on events he stated were false. It doesn't matter if he was right or wrong. if he was really was in Ukraine, expressing such views, he should of generally looked both emotionally stressed and frightened. I have noticed other news commenter's in Ukraine do generally look frightened and emotionally stressed, and that is normal and expected in such circumstances. Most likely genuine. I have felt that way at times in my life, and it's an uncomfortable feeling.

Example of Gonzalo Lira's work.



He seems to be knowledgeable of filming and stage production as a profession.

George Galloway is best described as a "professional politician".

Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices Message Board - Msg: 33804350 (siliconinvestor.com)

More.



So maybe Gonzalo was (hopefully "is") just private citizen after all, maybe broadcasting a pro Russian perspective, but being a real journalist in these days of endemic government sponsored fake news and false flags, a hazardous way to live.

Wait and see.




To: TobagoJack who wrote (186578)4/19/2022 7:57:32 AM
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Whys and whereof of Ukraine conflict not so murky. Fairly clear, in my view.

In 2004, Poland and others joined NATO.

In 2008, Bucharest declaration said that NATO wished for Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO. Joining the EU also on the menu.

Russians responded to Bucharest with an immediate and stark warning: “grave consequences for Pan-European security.” They were apparently ignored.

In 2008, Georgia, foolishly believing that the Bucharest invitation to join NATO meant a substantive promise of real support, took steps to slant West. The Russians then clobbered the Georgians in a war that has been mostly forgotten. It was a smaller but significant prologue for Ukraine today. If stronger, Russia would’ve then also gone after Ukraine, but it simply did not have the resources to do both at the same time.

In 2014, Ukraine had a revolution, deposing a Russian-speaking hugely corrupt President, native of East Ukraine. The revolution and subsequent new government were supported, funded, and fomented by the US via luminaries like Vindemann (remember this weasel, probably not) and Virginia “ph**k the EU” Unland. In the meantime, Donbas conflict festered as it had festered for a long time.

At one point after 2014, Ukraine’s Constitution had language in it re: joining NATO.

And here we are.

Prediction: Russian military turn to east means that we have seen the beginning of the end. Luhansk and Donetsk will become Russian. Negotiations are undoubtedly ongoing. More blood to be spilled, more propaganda from both sides to be endured, etc., but IMO it is ending. Tensions easing. Recall that Biden, before invasion, said that NATO was “not united” re: a response to a “small” incursion. He basically green-lighted Russia’s takeover of portions of east Ukraine. And that’s exactly what’s going on with turn to the east.
On the whole, the turn to the east in my view means that Putin has given up on taking all of Ukraine east of the Dnieper and has gone to Plan B or that he is now going after what we’re his original goals. He never wanted all of Ukraine, that was too much for even the Russians to swallow. Would’ve required commitment of a huge amount of military resources Russia could not afford to commit. Not to mention chronic and debilitating guerrilla warfare.

All kabuki from here on.