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To: didjuneau who wrote (761816)4/22/2022 4:11:52 PM
From: skinowski  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793624
 
Yes, it’s the same map.. they may have presented it looking a bit intimidating. But, they sound confident. We shall see.

I spent this morning trying to define victory - from our point of view. Could think of nothing better than avoiding nuclear annihilation. Tbh, still no better ideas.

I suspect NATO, the US, Australia etc take it as an absolutely earth shattering issue. But, I listened to the same Arestovych - Zelensky’s buddy - give a talk a few years ago, saying that yes, Eastern Ukraine may revert to Russia, parts of Western- to Romania or Poland… but there will still be Ukraine, we can still be great, and so on and so forth.

But then, in the clip I posted last night, the same guy (about 3 years ago) speaks confidently about Ukraine's future victory in this “99.9% unavoidable” forthcoming war. Which is happening now.

Deep down they’re more practical. Cognizant of possibilities. They’ve seen sh*t happen.