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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (188463)6/5/2022 6:23:40 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217570
 
I have difficulty seeing the sustainable end-state that is not-a-mess



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (188463)6/5/2022 6:30:21 PM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation

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Maurice Winn

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I find the Sweden/Finland/Nato/Turkey ‘thing’ fascinating

I note that Sweden/Finland both did not bother w/ referendum, and MSM reported no internal dissension

There is an ancient saying, “do not catch other people’s lice and put in own hair”

Australia experienced regime-change

Canada and France held fast

Let’s watch & see Sweden, Finland and Turkey

Unclear to me who gave Stoltenberg his job.

zerohedge.com

Turkey Tells Sweden Stop "Wasting NATO's Time" Over 'Pointless' Membership Bid

A representative of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has told Finland and Sweden to stop "wasting NATO's time" in their twin bids to join the Western military alliance. Speaking to Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter, Erdogan's office further described the bid as ultimately 'pointless'.

"It is not right that Finland and Sweden are wasting NATO's time at this critical moment," Erdogan adviser Fahrettin Altun was cited as saying. He emphasized that so far the Scandinavian countries have offered only empty words without action in the face of legitimate Turkish demands and concerns.

Image: EPA/EFE

"Before this application, they may have thought, 'Turkey will be convinced anyway' or 'Turkey will not object'. However... Turkey will protect its interests at all costs," Altun, who is the Turkish presidency's head of media and communications, said.

Erdogan and top officials have demanded that Finland and Sweden halt their embracing of dissident Kurdish groups including the outlawed PKK. Statements from Ankara have gone so far as to demand that PKK rallies in these countries be banned, requiring a change in local laws.

Additionally, at a moment Turkey has said it is readying a new military operation in northern Syria against the Kurds (specifically the YPG), Erdogan has said the Nordic countries must drop arms restrictions on Turkey which the EU implemented in 2019.

Concerning Turkey's security demands, which have been delivered to Finnish and Swedish delegations in written form, Altun emphasized there remains no difference in "what we say to them and what we say in public."

Repeating the statements of the foreign minister and of Erdogan himself, Altun told the Swedish newspaper, "Sweden needs to make a concrete and permanent policy change on terrorism. Extradition of terrorists to Turkey and preventing terrorist organizations from operating on Swedish soil are indispensable."

All of these things are of course tall orders, meaning the simultaneous bids for membership appear at least for now indefinitely stalled, following their formal application submissions on May 18, ostensibly as a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg had over a month ago even suggested the two countries would be 'fast-tracked' in the ascension process, amid initial enthusiasm, but Turkey has certainly poured cold water on that prospect at this point.

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (188463)6/5/2022 7:18:20 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations

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pak73

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Mq, you are naive. The supernatural force = Blackrock, Soros, Klaus Schwab/WEF/Davos, Zionistas/Banksters who have a LOT of cheese to move around the world to entice the ants to perform like monkeys. en.wikipedia.org Larry is right in the WEF as a boss and acolyte and no-doubt funder [I guess].

Those poor, gullible Ukrainians who have been cheesed into fighting their cousin/brother Russians think they are patriots.

Even Hunter is just a pawn, paid in cash, cocaine, prostitutes. DementiaJoe10% says he's just following instructions and reads out what they tell him to read out. Sometimes he gets forgetful and goes ad lib before being taken off-stage. His supervisors then correct his spoke mistakes, ignore them etc.

It's Russia, China, India, and others, vs Larry Fink, Soros, Zelensky, Blinken, David Cohen, Avril Haines, Ronald Klain, Dominic Raab, Henry Kissinger .... hey, hang on Mq, you are giving fuel to defamatory conspiracy theorists there.....the AntiDefamationLeague will be after you.
Hmmm, maybe so, but it is definitely Russia/China/India and others vs somebody is in charge or leading the charge and it certainly isn't me.

It would be interesting to see a distribution curve of those with political, or financial power, or influence leading the Russia Russia Russia Let's Get Putin forces and see what they have in common. Kind of like finding things in common with poor outcomes when infected with covid.

Epidemiology applied to political processes.

Jacinda Aotearoa-Zimbabwe Dear Leader has thrown her lot in with the LetsGetHim RussiaRussiaRussia gang. China has now told her - "Hey, we thought you were friendly. Are you sure? What happened to NZ's independent spirit?"

Jacinda has been a WEF Klaus Schwab co-conspirator for decades and has just visited Blackrock to get her instructions. Justin, Jacinda, Zelensky = all trainee performers for Klaus, WEF, Blackrock and the Great Global Conspiracy = GGC.

Look what happens to elderly people who don't submit to the WEF/Blackrock/GGC bbc.com Peter Navarro treated much worse than BLM rioting looters [Burn Loot Murder = BLM].

Mqurice