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To: golfer72 who wrote (764626)7/3/2022 9:03:15 AM
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he did a poor job of defending himself

He did a remarkable job considering the entire power structure tried to destroy him and everyone associated with him.



To: golfer72 who wrote (764626)7/3/2022 12:33:38 PM
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Charlottesville and many other times. Also, he set himself up so many times with unscripted statements -- like on the phone with the Georgia officials. It was clear to me at the moment he said (roughly) "All I want is 11,000 votes, enough to win the election." It sounded horrible. But the reality is he believed, and had reason to believe, that he has won a large number of votes that weren't his. He is saying, "I don't care if you identify every vote and what the intent was, but I need 11,000 of them to win, they are my votes, I want at least that many."

He didn't really grasp that votes get counted by certain processes and once that is done, they're not just going allocate them arbitrarily. You count the votes. You don't just cut a deal for them. Even if you were cheated out of them.

I'm sad to say it but the only way to beat a cheater is to be a better cheater.

A tactic I call "Suppression by Proportion" -- where the essential money to run elections is dumped into areas that will generate blue, but not red votes. By doing this you are effectively suppressing the red vote while boosting the blue vote. It is just another variant on literacy testing, and it worked gloriously for Democrats in 2020.

While many states have outlawed this tactic, Biden is in the process of institutionalizing it, with GOVERNMENT, rather than Zuckerberg, funding it. It will become the law, in effect, that federal government will dump funds into states to manipulate the vote. Of course, it matters who is controlling the allocation of money. but you can be it is going to a leftist Democrat in Washington DC.


My point with this is that Republicans have to comprehend how dirty and effective these tactics are and fight back using whatever tactics are necessary.

If we don't think thing will be lost for good.



To: golfer72 who wrote (764626)7/3/2022 1:48:13 PM
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>> The problem with Trump is he did a poor job of defending himself when falsely accused or misrepresented on an issue.

I think he could have done better. But when the media will go to the extremes it did on this it is tough.

Recall the claim that he "mocked" Serge Kovaleski the "disabled" reporter. It has been shown that that did not occur, but a frame from a video stopped at the perfect point can mislead an entire country. Today, it is exacerbated by reliance on Youtube for these data points and they are anything BUT reliable.

We cannot expect presidents to be tech savvy at this point, but if he runs again he has to hire the right people who cannot be blindsided by this nonsense. He does avoid professionals in favor of unproven experts at times -- because professionals will argue with him about the best ways to do things. This can be a problem with someone who has run his own shows for 50 years, for sure (I might even be a little that way, myself, from what I've heard).

But I do think he has learned stuff over time.