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To: Eric Yang who wrote (47568)	2/10/1998 5:54:00 PM
From: The Duke of URL©	Respond to of 186894

"If you want to continue this discussion feel free come over to AAPL board or email me privately. I'm sure our friends here don't find this discussion very relevant to INTC." Au Contraire, Mssr. Yang, that you for the post and it does belong here. This is not the IOM thread. All valid, relevant, and reasoned information, intelligently presented is welcomed here. Duke

To: Eric Yang who wrote (47568)	2/10/1998 6:06:00 PM
From: Time Traveler	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Eric, Why are so jumpy about this discussion on your beloved PPC vs. P-II? Is your guilty conscience showing all over your post.for making that faulty comparison? Do you work for Apple? Or is Apple paying you to do advertisement on your beautiful web page? "The high-end machines [from Apple] based on PPC 750 will be out in a few months." Wow! So PPC-750 is not out yet, and you have been hyping about it already and pitting it against the previous generation of P-II! Adding insult to injury, you are telling how it is fair to compare PPC-750 with P-II on 0.35um! "333MHz PII draws about 23.7 watts which is still over 4 times that of PPC 750. Happy?" Oh, yes, I am slightly happier. However, again you are not comparing apples with apples and oranges with oranges. This 23.7 watts P-II dissipated (worst case) includes the L2 cache, and this 4 times less power dissipated by PPC-750 is a typical figure not a maximum of 8.2 watts! Despite all that, you are still right that PPC-750 according to spec does dissipate less power than Deschutes. "Motorola also makes PowerPC chips." Yes, but not on 0.25um (yet?). "Apple being a member of the partnership [with Motorola and IBM] AND the only major PPC customer has a lot of negotiation power." Motorola is scaling their Power PC business down due to lack of demand. That left with only one effective manufacturer (IBM) who is not even supporting/shipping Power PCs and one sole customer who definitely require PPC. Yeah, right the customer (Apple) has a tremendous negotiation power here, wake up, please! "If you want to continue this discussion feel free come over to AAPL board or email me privately. I'm sure our friends here don't find this discussion very relevant to INTC." This is SI. And all these discussions are what SI is designed and set up to do. What are you hiding or afraid of, anyway? Let's continue with our friendly discussions, shall we? John.