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To: TigerPaw who wrote (497479)	8/25/2022 5:33:16 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542123

>>anyone who can fill a seat. I wouldn't want my surgeon to be the last in their class and barely to have made it through their internship. People need to do what they are best at and if that isn't academics - making them do academics is not only ineffective but denies them compensation. There are often perks to white collar jobs that don't include cash compensation like working from home - that saves transportation costs. Hourly overtime was good when I was nonexempt - which used to be rare for someone with a degree. Mine was in geophysics so I wasn't classified an "engineer" then, but a "technician". It took me a while before I made what my "peers" did with the same hours worked. But when double time kicked in - I was pretty flush. This changed "magically" when I got my computer science degree.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (497479)

8/25/2022 9:22:17 PM

From: koan

Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542123

Not how it works in California..

Community colleges give a second chance once kids get more mature and smarter.

A lot of the gang bangers in Richmond made it to our community colleges and were successful and went on to get four years degrees, and came out a totally different person.

I went to not knowing what the words society or rhetoric meant, and considering transferring to Brigham Young university, to finding the idea abhorring and an existentialist four years later.

That is a long journey I am so glad I made.

And you do fill a seat, no requirements needed, and if you can keep a C average you can stay and if you get a C+ average you can transfer to a state college, and if you get a B average you can transfer to a university.

And most make it at least through a BA or BS.

90% of my friends in community college successfully went on to a state college or university.

And I found NO difference in the intellectual capabilities of either the students or teachers at the state college or university.

I did see a lot of over achievers at the university!

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I think one of the reasons that people, at least of a certain age, advanced so much with college is that the classes were no longer taught to the slowest pupils. The people in college wanted to be there and worked to keep up (or dropped out). That was not the case in high school where outliers were ignored, both good and bad, to cater to the average student. I don't agree with filling the colleges with anyone who can fill a seat.