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To: koan who wrote (497617)	8/27/2022 11:43:06 AM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 542102

>>teaching and education Your attitudes are in complete denial of the human condition. More than once I've had had to redesign industrial processes because not everyone could do them to the required level of performance. That calls for what we termed a "change in tooling". We didn't fire people who couldn't - we made it so everyone could. We've heard you describe your own performance in almost superhuman terms in Alaska doing things much better than others. Oddly, you never said this was this because they weren't as educated as you! Further you never said that you could make them as good as you because that is where the real leverage is - taking one's superior skill and making it so anyone can do it. That is often when we call in technology because many people just can't learn some tasks. I spent a whole summer trying to teach my son (on the spectrum) how to ride a bike. It didn't take - I tried everything I could think of from training wheels (which I asked to take off before I learned at 5) to me running along side holding on to the seat post and nearly passing out from exhaustion. I was trying to get him to have the "feel" of riding without his 99th percentile body mass fall on the ground in a heap. I did this for months. I asked him if he wanted to just try on his own. That was uglier still - we were pushing on a rope. He never learned. My son has high intellect but is ungainly when he moves - he has one arm that he uses in preference to another. At some point we have to accept that Stephen Hawking isn't going to be shooting hoops. People can be of other uses.

To: koan who wrote (497617)	8/27/2022 11:44:26 AM
From: Cautious_Optimist	1 Recommendation Recommended By epicure Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542102

Where I'm from, I would begin by investing the money in merely getting young people through high school. Especially of color, and other less privileged classes. Beginning with basic literacy and arithmetic. And safe schools. We must pay teachers better. Then we can talk college. Community college here (this year) is now free, including a meal a day for ANYONE who attends. We need early intervention for phucked-up kids; but there's no way all parents want schools to interfere with their PRIVATE "methods" and realities of child raising. And the Pandora's box -- as John Lennon said, "and no religion too." Let's leave that aside for now. Sometimes children become sociopaths and disruptive very young -- and the issues of mainstreaming vs. separating loom large. As does "intervention." The costs of our youth turning to drugs, crime or becoming chronically homeless are greater than the costs of all people not learning about philosophy and sociology at a university. We gotta start younger than universities or we shall surely become a caste system like India.