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To: Don Westermeyer who wrote (1525)2/11/1998 11:41:00 AM
From: Candle stick  Respond to of 164684
 
Speak of the devil (momentum that is)...it just turned, off course just as I was trying to sell at 65 3/8 , I just chased it down a point and got nothing off....I think that means nobody really wants stock up here...MM's are just goosing it up.......;^)



To: Don Westermeyer who wrote (1525)2/11/1998 11:49:00 AM
From: Tom D  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
No, AMZN plans to continue to advertise.

I think they are trying to steal the dominant market share before their competitors realize it has happened. I am in this long-term (more than 3 year expected investment).

My argument is that AMZN is willing to plough potential profits back into the advertising budget. So, I don't think the P/E will be a meaningful yardstick for a couple more years.

At a shareholders meeting in 1997 an officer from Barnes and Noble said something to the effect that they would not allow their online business to adversely affect overall profitability (I don't have the exact quote in front of me here at work). This limits their arsenal in the war for market share.

Best Regards,

Tom D



To: Don Westermeyer who wrote (1525)2/11/1998 12:16:00 PM
From: Joe E.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
Re Marketing Expenses:
Look at this page:
quote.yahoo.com

Consider the online brokers shown there.

Imagine in 6 months a book review page or a top 20 book sales listing page. Or an author interview page. Or a book first chapter listing page. Consider that online book sellers could be shown as buttons there.

Say there are 4 buttons, AMZN, BKS, Borders, and the one that finds the cheapest source online. Which button do you pop to buy the book or to find out what else the author has written? It is a lot easier to change booksellers than brokers.

This is of course why all of the booksellers are after exclusives. I can see the bidding for exclusives going up up up for AOL, Yahoo, et cetera, since AOL and Yahoo et al can demand an amount equivalent to what they would get from the four button sites together. And why not eight buttons - I think that could be tastefully done.

Only if AMZN spends so much on marketing that Barnes and Nobles and Borders both say uncle will AMZN remain the dominant internet bookseller. Amazon's fortunes depend greatly on the will to persist shown by the boards at BKS and Borders. I don't think the land based booksellers will fight to the death, though. They may give up if AMZN can use the stock price as a weapon.

On net, I thnk there will have to continue to be huge expenditures for marketing for AMZN to continue to grow sales faster than their new competition.

AOL just signed up 1.5 million newbies in the last 4 month. BKS has first shot at these people. AMZN will have to spend a bunch to convert them.

Nobody here has said that marketing expenditures will go away, but I think that one of the three crucial questions in evaluating AMZN is how much of their revenue will go toward marketing. AOL is down to 16% of revenues yet still growing quickly. Yes, a very different business, but what better comparisons are there?