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To: sm1th who wrote (769430)10/12/2022 6:24:20 PM
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I see 2 possibilities. 1) Russia wins, and 2) we have a nuclear blowout - when Everyone loses - and probably is dead.

The United States never had to fight an existential war. The nation's survival was never in question.

I don’t know what plans Napoleon had for Russia after he was going to conquer it. But the German Nazis - afaik - were planning to chase all the surviving ethnic Russians beyond the Urals - and re-populate the European territories with people who would be racially superior - and preferable. Ditto for Ukraine - that’s why they imprisoned Bandera, once he started acting too independent, to their taste...

So, WWII for Russia was a truly existential war. On par with the Mongols - probably even more serious. Gengis Khan didn’t want to evict them - just to pay their taxes.

As we find out more about plans to “weaken” Russia - in line with Brzezinski’s ideas… about plans for regime change, for “decolonization” - or some other form of splitting it up into a bunch of powerless little countries - it does sound like something existential, from their point of view.

I was saying the same thing since the beginning if the invasion - they can’t accept defeat - and they will not.

But, in a sense, even if the Russians annex large parts of Ukraine - and work out a “forever” deal about keeping the rest of it neutral - they will lose a lot of their own humanity. This bloodshed will never be forgotten.

But - if we get a nuclear blowout - everything would be forgotten - as if nothing ever happened. It will be the End of History. Or, maybe even the End of Everything.



To: sm1th who wrote (769430)10/13/2022 4:54:50 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793620
 
Apparently, the only thing viewed by Ukrainians as worse than war is peace under Russian dictatorship.

That must be one nasty country to live under.