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To: rupert1 who wrote (4178)2/11/1998 7:00:00 PM
From: rupert1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6980
 
Thread: here come the Gigabet competition from CSCO (and INTC):

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Intel turns up network juice
Initial Gigabit Ethernet products kick off a large-scale networking initiative
By Scott Berinato, PC Week Online
02.09.98 10:00 am ET

Diving into the deep end of the networking business, Intel Corp. this month will introduce its first Gigabit Ethernet products.

The Feb. 24 announcement in San Francisco will kick off a two-month product blitz. Among the products expected are a Gigabit Ethernet adapter for servers, a Gigabit module for the company's Express 510T switch, and new Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet routing switches.

The new products are part of Intel's strategy to woo customers with low-cost networking wares that fill gaps between the workgroup and the enterprise backbone, company officials confirmed.

The Santa Clara, Calif., company will lay the groundwork for the new products this week when it cuts the price of its Express 10/100 hubs to $83 per port for a 24-port device, down from $99, and to $116 for a 12-port version, down from $127. The Express 510T, a 24-port 10/100 switch, will drop switched Fast Ethernet to $154 per port from $199, officials said.

A one-port Gigabit Ethernet module for the 510T, a switch that has two expansion slots, will debut at the Feb. 24 event.

Pricing has not been set, but sources indicate it will come in at close to $1,400--competitive with 3Com Corp.'s recently announced SuperStack II 9300 Gigabit Ethernet switch.

Intel also will introduce a fiber-based Gigabit adapter for servers, currently in beta testing, sources said. The network interface card is expected to be released next quarter, priced as low as $800, they said.

Also due are Intel's newest Express 500-series stackable switches. An eight-port 10/100 switch with Layer 3 route-switching capabilities and two expansion slots will be priced at about $400 per port, similar to Extreme Networks Inc.'s new Summit3 switch.

"Those prices would attract our attention," said John Ruhl, strategic planner at the Aberdeen Test Center, in Aberdeen, Md., which currently uses networking hardware from Cabletron Systems Inc. "As we add buildings and users to our network, we might add a vendor if the price is compelling."

For the higher end, Intel will demonstrate an eight-port Express 500-series Gigabit Ethernet routing switch. The switch, which will officially debut in the second quarter, will be targeted at "entry-level backbones, or companies just setting up their first backbone," said Mark Christensen, group manager for Intel's Network Products Division in Hillsboro, Ore.

Most existing Gigabit switch/routers, Christensen said, are targeted at larger enterprise backbones--a space in which Intel does not wish to compete.

In the enterprise area, Intel will continue to leverage its OEM agreements with major networking vendors Cisco Systems Inc. and Bay Networks Inc.

Intel, which previously has focused its networking business on lower-end products such as LAN adapters, will face some challenges in wooing network administrators who have long-standing relationships with more traditional networking vendors such as Cisco.

"[Intel] will have a tough time of it," said Brendan Hennigan, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc., in Cambridge, Mass. "Right now, they can get in line behind the [four major networking vendors]."

But as the world's leading chip maker, Intel's brand recognition and dominance in the desktop space will likely win over some networking converts.

"I like using Intel switches because I know the Intel PCs will run well with the networking equipment," said Ha Nguyen, senior engineer at Marquette Medical Systems Inc., located in Torrance, Calif. "The price points are another reason I use their equipment. I think Intel can become a full-fledged networking company."

Intel's powerful standing in the industry also would lend assurance to potential customers like the Aberdeen Test Center's Ruhl.

"One advantage Intel has is you can establish a long-term relationship with them," he said. "I'm reasonably certain they're not going to be bought or go out of business. [With] some networking companies, you never know."

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Intel turns up network juice
Initial Gigabit Ethernet products kick off a large-scale networking initiative
By Scott Berinato, PC Week Online
02.09.98 10:00 am ET

Diving into the deep end of the networking business, Intel Corp. this month will introduce its first Gigabit Ethernet products.

The Feb. 24 announcement in San Francisco will kick off a two-month product blitz. Among the products expected are a Gigabit Ethernet adapter for servers, a Gigabit module for the company's Express 510T switch, and new Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet routing switches.

The new products are part of Intel's strategy to woo customers with low-cost networking wares that fill gaps between the workgroup and the enterprise backbone, company officials confirmed.

The Santa Clara, Calif., company will lay the groundwork for the new products this week when it cuts the price of its Express 10/100 hubs to $83 per port for a 24-port device, down from $99, and to $116 for a 12-port version, down from $127. The Express 510T, a 24-port 10/100 switch, will drop switched Fast Ethernet to $154 per port from $199, officials said.

A one-port Gigabit Ethernet module for the 510T, a switch that has two expansion slots, will debut at the Feb. 24 event.

Pricing has not been set, but sources indicate it will come in at close to $1,400--competitive with 3Com Corp.'s recently announced SuperStack II 9300 Gigabit Ethernet switch.

Intel also will introduce a fiber-based Gigabit adapter for servers, currently in beta testing, sources said. The network interface card is expected to be released next quarter, priced as low as $800, they said.

Also due are Intel's newest Express 500-series stackable switches. An eight-port 10/100 switch with Layer 3 route-switching capabilities and two expansion slots will be priced at about $400 per port, similar to Extreme Networks Inc.'s new Summit3 switch.

"Those prices would attract our attention," said John Ruhl, strategic planner at the Aberdeen Test Center, in Aberdeen, Md., which currently uses networking hardware from Cabletron Systems Inc. "As we add buildings and users to our network, we might add a vendor if the price is compelling."

For the higher end, Intel will demonstrate an eight-port Express 500-series Gigabit Ethernet routing switch. The switch, which will officially debut in the second quarter, will be targeted at "entry-level backbones, or companies just setting up their first backbone," said Mark Christensen, group manager for Intel's Network Products Division in Hillsboro, Ore.

Most existing Gigabit switch/routers, Christensen said, are targeted at larger enterprise backbones--a space in which Intel does not wish to compete.

In the enterprise area, Intel will continue to leverage its OEM agreements with major networking vendors Cisco Systems Inc. and Bay Networks Inc.

Intel, which previously has focused its networking business on lower-end products such as LAN adapters, will face some challenges in wooing network administrators who have long-standing relationships with more traditional networking vendors such as Cisco.

"[Intel] will have a tough time of it," said Brendan Hennigan, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc., in Cambridge, Mass. "Right now, they can get in line behind the [four major networking vendors]."

But as the world's leading chip maker, Intel's brand recognition and dominance in the desktop space will likely win over some networking converts.

"I like using Intel switches because I know the Intel PCs will run well with the networking equipment," said Ha Nguyen, senior engineer at Marquette Medical Systems Inc., located in Torrance, Calif. "The price points are another reason I use their equipment. I think Intel can become a full-fledged networking company."

Intel's powerful standing in the industry also would lend assurance to potential customers like the Aberdeen Test Center's Ruhl.

"One advantage Intel has is you can establish a long-term relationship with them," he said. "I'm reasonably certain they're not going to be bought or go out of business. [With] some networking companies, you never know."

Additional reporting by Carmen Nobel

Would appreciate analysis of the threat to CSCO. Thanks in advance, Jim

Intel turns up network juice
Initial Gigabit Ethernet products kick off a large-scale networking initiative
By Scott Berinato, PC Week Online
02.09.98 10:00 am ET

Diving into the deep end of the networking business, Intel Corp. this month will introduce its first Gigabit Ethernet products.

The Feb. 24 announcement in San Francisco will kick off a two-month product blitz. Among the products expected are a Gigabit Ethernet adapter for servers, a Gigabit module for the company's Express 510T switch, and new Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet routing switches.

The new products are part of Intel's strategy to woo customers with low-cost networking wares that fill gaps between the workgroup and the enterprise backbone, company officials confirmed.

The Santa Clara, Calif., company will lay the groundwork for the new products this week when it cuts the price of its Express 10/100 hubs to $83 per port for a 24-port device, down from $99, and to $116 for a 12-port version, down from $127. The Express 510T, a 24-port 10/100 switch, will drop switched Fast Ethernet to $154 per port from $199, officials said.

A one-port Gigabit Ethernet module for the 510T, a switch that has two expansion slots, will debut at the Feb. 24 event.

Pricing has not been set, but sources indicate it will come in at close to $1,400--competitive with 3Com Corp.'s recently announced SuperStack II 9300 Gigabit Ethernet switch.

Intel also will introduce a fiber-based Gigabit adapter for servers, currently in beta testing, sources said. The network interface card is expected to be released next quarter, priced as low as $800, they said.

Also due are Intel's newest Express 500-series stackable switches. An eight-port 10/100 switch with Layer 3 route-switching capabilities and two expansion slots will be priced at about $400 per port, similar to Extreme Networks Inc.'s new Summit3 switch.

"Those prices would attract our attention," said John Ruhl, strategic planner at the Aberdeen Test Center, in Aberdeen, Md., which currently uses networking hardware from Cabletron Systems Inc. "As we add buildings and users to our network, we might add a vendor if the price is compelling."

For the higher end, Intel will demonstrate an eight-port Express 500-series Gigabit Ethernet routing switch. The switch, which will officially debut in the second quarter, will be targeted at "entry-level backbones, or companies just setting up their first backbone," said Mark Christensen, group manager for Intel's Network Products Division in Hillsboro, Ore.

Most existing Gigabit switch/routers, Christensen said, are targeted at larger enterprise backbones--a space in which Intel does not wish to compete.

In the enterprise area, Intel will continue to leverage its OEM agreements with major networking vendors Cisco Systems Inc. and Bay Networks Inc.

Intel, which previously has focused its networking business on lower-end products such as LAN adapters, will face some challenges in wooing network administrators who have long-standing relationships with more traditional networking vendors such as Cisco.

"[Intel] will have a tough time of it," said Brendan Hennigan, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc., in Cambridge, Mass. "Right now, they can get in line behind the [four major networking vendors]."

But as the world's leading chip maker, Intel's brand recognition and dominance in the desktop space will likely win over some networking converts.

"I like using Intel switches because I know the Intel PCs will run well with the networking equipment," said Ha Nguyen, senior engineer at Marquette Medical Systems Inc., located in Torrance, Calif. "The price points are another reason I use their equipment. I think Intel can become a full-fledged networking company."

Intel's powerful standing in the industry also would lend assurance to potential customers like the Aberdeen Test Center's Ruhl.

"One advantage Intel has is you can establish a long-term relationship with them," he said. "I'm reasonably certain they're not going to be bought or go out of business. [With] some networking companies, you never know."

________

Intel turns up network juice
Initial Gigabit Ethernet products kick off a large-scale networking initiative
By Scott Berinato, PC Week Online
02.09.98 10:00 am ET

Diving into the deep end of the networking business, Intel Corp. this month will introduce its first Gigabit Ethernet products.

The Feb. 24 announcement in San Francisco will kick off a two-month product blitz. Among the products expected are a Gigabit Ethernet adapter for servers, a Gigabit module for the company's Express 510T switch, and new Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet routing switches.

The new products are part of Intel's strategy to woo customers with low-cost networking wares that fill gaps between the workgroup and the enterprise backbone, company officials confirmed.

The Santa Clara, Calif., company will lay the groundwork for the new products this week when it cuts the price of its Express 10/100 hubs to $83 per port for a 24-port device, down from $99, and to $116 for a 12-port version, down from $127. The Express 510T, a 24-port 10/100 switch, will drop switched Fast Ethernet to $154 per port from $199, officials said.

A one-port Gigabit Ethernet module for the 510T, a switch that has two expansion slots, will debut at the Feb. 24 event.

Pricing has not been set, but sources indicate it will come in at close to $1,400--competitive with 3Com Corp.'s recently announced SuperStack II 9300 Gigabit Ethernet switch.

Intel also will introduce a fiber-based Gigabit adapter for servers, currently in beta testing, sources said. The network interface card is expected to be released next quarter, priced as low as $800, they said.

Also due are Intel's newest Express 500-series stackable switches. An eight-port 10/100 switch with Layer 3 route-switching capabilities and two expansion slots will be priced at about $400 per port, similar to Extreme Networks Inc.'s new Summit3 switch.

"Those prices would attract our attention," said John Ruhl, strategic planner at the Aberdeen Test Center, in Aberdeen, Md., which currently uses networking hardware from Cabletron Systems Inc. "As we add buildings and users to our network, we might add a vendor if the price is compelling."

For the higher end, Intel will demonstrate an eight-port Express 500-series Gigabit Ethernet routing switch. The switch, which will officially debut in the second quarter, will be targeted at "entry-level backbones, or companies just setting up their first backbone," said Mark Christensen, group manager for Intel's Network Products Division in Hillsboro, Ore.

Most existing Gigabit switch/routers, Christensen said, are targeted at larger enterprise backbones--a space in which Intel does not wish to compete.

In the enterprise area, Intel will continue to leverage its OEM agreements with major networking vendors Cisco Systems Inc. and Bay Networks Inc.

Intel, which previously has focused its networking business on lower-end products such as LAN adapters, will face some challenges in wooing network administrators who have long-standing relationships with more traditional networking vendors such as Cisco.

"[Intel] will have a tough time of it," said Brendan Hennigan, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc., in Cambridge, Mass. "Right now, they can get in line behind the [four major networking vendors]."

But as the world's leading chip maker, Intel's brand recognition and dominance in the desktop space will likely win over some networking converts.

"I like using Intel switches because I know the Intel PCs will run well with the networking equipment," said Ha Nguyen, senior engineer at Marquette Medical Systems Inc., located in Torrance, Calif. "The price points are another reason I use their equipment. I think Intel can become a full-fledged networking company."

Intel's powerful standing in the industry also would lend assurance to potential customers like the Aberdeen Test Center's Ruhl.

"One advantage Intel has is you can establish a long-term relationship with them," he said. "I'm reasonably certain they're not going to be bought or go out of business. [With] some networking companies, you never know."

Additional reporting by Carmen Nobel

Would appreciate analysis of the threat to CSCO. Thanks in advance, Jim

Intel turns up network juice
Initial Gigabit Ethernet products kick off a large-scale networking initiative
By Scott Berinato, PC Week Online
02.09.98 10:00 am ET

Diving into the deep end of the networking business, Intel Corp. this month will introduce its first Gigabit Ethernet products.

The Feb. 24 announcement in San Francisco will kick off a two-month product blitz. Among the products expected are a Gigabit Ethernet adapter for servers, a Gigabit module for the company's Express 510T switch, and new Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet routing switches.

The new products are part of Intel's strategy to woo customers with low-cost networking wares that fill gaps between the workgroup and the enterprise backbone, company officials confirmed.

The Santa Clara, Calif., company will lay the groundwork for the new products this week when it cuts the price of its Express 10/100 hubs to $83 per port for a 24-port device, down from $99, and to $116 for a 12-port version, down from $127. The Express 510T, a 24-port 10/100 switch, will drop switched Fast Ethernet to $154 per port from $199, officials said.

A one-port Gigabit Ethernet module for the 510T, a switch that has two expansion slots, will debut at the Feb. 24 event.

Pricing has not been set, but sources indicate it will come in at close to $1,400--competitive with 3Com Corp.'s recently announced SuperStack II 9300 Gigabit Ethernet switch.

Intel also will introduce a fiber-based Gigabit adapter for servers, currently in beta testing, sources said. The network interface card is expected to be released next quarter, priced as low as $800, they said.

Also due are Intel's newest Express 500-series stackable switches. An eight-port 10/100 switch with Layer 3 route-switching capabilities and two expansion slots will be priced at about $400 per port, similar to Extreme Networks Inc.'s new Summit3 switch.

"Those prices would attract our attention," said John Ruhl, strategic planner at the Aberdeen Test Center, in Aberdeen, Md., which currently uses networking hardware from Cabletron Systems Inc. "As we add buildings and users to our network, we might add a vendor if the price is compelling."

For the higher end, Intel will demonstrate an eight-port Express 500-series Gigabit Ethernet routing switch. The switch, which will officially debut in the second quarter, will be targeted at "entry-level backbones, or companies just setting up their first backbone," said Mark Christensen, group manager for Intel's Network Products Division in Hillsboro, Ore.

Most existing Gigabit switch/routers, Christensen said, are targeted at larger enterprise backbones--a space in which Intel does not wish to compete.

In the enterprise area, Intel will continue to leverage its OEM agreements with major networking vendors Cisco Systems Inc. and Bay Networks Inc.

Intel, which previously has focused its networking business on lower-end products such as LAN adapters, will face some challenges in wooing network administrators who have long-standing relationships with more traditional networking vendors such as Cisco.

"[Intel] will have a tough time of it," said Brendan Hennigan, an analyst at Forrester Research Inc., in Cambridge, Mass. "Right now, they can get in line behind the [four major networking vendors]."

But as the world's leading chip maker, Intel's brand recognition and dominance in the desktop space will likely win over some networking converts.

"I like using Intel switches because I know the Intel PCs will run well with the networking equipment," said Ha Nguyen, senior engineer at Marquette Medical Systems Inc., located in Torrance, Calif. "The price points are another reason I use their equipment. I think Intel can become a full-fledged networking company."

Intel's powerful standing in the industry also would lend assurance to potential customers like the Aberdeen Test Center's Ruhl.

"One advantage Intel has is you can establish a long-term relationship with them," he said. "I'm reasonably certain they're not going to be bought or go out of business. [With] some networking companies, you never know."

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Victor



To: rupert1 who wrote (4178)2/11/1998 7:06:00 PM
From: rupert1  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 6980
 
Thread: Response to Goldman Sachs survey of buyers. (Borrowed from CISCO thread ~12401) Also see BAY thread #4170

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"These buyers also favored asynchronous transfer mode, or ATM, gear for local area network backbones over gigabit Ethernet, contrary to the popular notion that gigabit Ethernet is gaining broadly in this market. However, standards-compliant gigabit Ethernet products are to become widely available in the second half of the year and that could draw more interest to the category." (Quote from the article on the Goldman Sachs survey of buyers.)

As much I believe in both of these technologies, I think a statement like this has to render this study impotent.

Let's face it, most would agree that ATM in the local area is dead...Most industry luminaries been saying this for months and have since relegated ATM to core networks. After all the QoS that and dynamic capabilities that ATM delivers have no use in the local area where bandwidth is free - that is there is no recurring cost driving IT Managers to get better economies over existing infrastructure. Furthermore IT managers are happy and comfortable with IP. Why would they want to learn what is in their minds a more complex technology when there is no net benefit? Don't tell me voice and video either... Not only are these being developed for IP nets...but even if they weren't the IT manager could deliever these services via a discrete connection. IF more bandwidth is needed they simply incur the one-time fixed cost of another strand of fiber/copper/coax.

Given this I gotta believe that Gig. Ethernet is where these managers will go if/when they need more bandwidth in the local area. At the same time this demand for bandwidth in local area will also drive demand for bandwidth in the WAN. These pressures will require service providers to keep = continue to build out their nets. IN order for the carriers to deliver better efficiences over existing bandwidth they will indeed delpoy/leverage ATM in the core. This keeps their costs down and helps them to deliver a unique product reative to competitors that may continue to use inefficent means of transport such as circuit or frame switching.

Just my two cents........

Gary
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Victor