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To: Barnabus who wrote (459)	2/12/1998 1:38:00 AM
From: John A. Snell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1283

Here's how I see that one. . . So, you put unbelievable stress on those "with money". . .ie,we can't make it without your* support!!! The calling of Hearts* for the Lord should not include a plea to "support me and my family". Forgive me if I'm wrong. . . did you ever make such a plea? John

To: Barnabus who wrote (459)	2/12/1998 10:13:00 AM
From: gregor	Respond to of 1283

Dear Jack: Thank you for your wonderful insights. In many ways I am still learning so much. I have learned so much from my parents for example. My parents would not tithe 10% to their local church for example. In fact in the faith that I grew up in the word tithe was never mentioned; it was always "stewardship" and you know that sounds so much better to me. Well, when it came time to support the building program, and my father was the senior warden and Sunday school superintendent at the time they pledged 1/2 of a years salary and paid it over a three year period. Then when the community hospital was built they again pledged 1/2 of a years salary. And at the same time they were keeping up with their regular pledge to the church. I really questioned this when I was growing up; they were always tight with me I thought; you know I always thought I could use a few more pairs of shoes or pants or a motorcycle or go-cart. But when I also look back I see some of the great investments the Lord has led my parents into. They still do better than I do in the market and dad is 80 mom is 78. Last year they bought nscp made a 50% profit and sold at the top; they bought pfe at 52 , it's 83 now.I remember they bought xon in the mid 1980's at 23 , it went to 100 split and is now 60 or 70. Well last I heard, they wanted to give a big donation to the church for air conditioning and a new roof, and they help out their 6 grandkids and two great grandkids all the time. But the whole point is , they don't think it is any big deal, in fact they almost never talk about it, except I guess amongst themselves. But as far as the penalty for not tithing goes, if my statement about "the main benefits to tithing is in the spirit man, " then wouldn't it also be true that the main penalties to not tithing would be in the spirit man also. You say that giving balances out greed. This statement would be true of a rich man or a poor man. You can be poor and greedy just as easily as you can be rich and greedy. Being poor ( or having only one talent ) does not excuse anyone of kingdom responsibilities, as we learned in the parable of the talents. I wonder, does it also balance out poverty; can a person give their way out of poverty......In Christ.gregor