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To: skinowski who wrote (773103)	12/1/2022 10:29:28 PM
From: greenspirit	2 Recommendations Recommended By THE WATSONYOUTH Triffin Respond to of 793783

Russia won’t accept defeat, because no one invaded their country. They will just quit, claim a phony victory and pretend their goals were achieved. What that will mean is anybodies guess, but it won’t be victory or defeat.

To: skinowski who wrote (773103)	12/2/2022 5:43:12 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	3 Recommendations Recommended By garrettjax MulhollandDrive sm1th Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793783

6 ways the USA could have avoided the Ukraine war (if we wanted to): 1. Not expand NATO eastward. Leave neutral buffer States between NATO and Russia. Estonia is indefensible. Romania adds nothing to our security. 2. expand east, but don’t place any offensive weapons in the new members. Just token infantry as a trip-wire. 3. Clearly say, to both Russia and Ukraine, that Ukraine will never be in NATO. 4. Beginning in 1991, make aid to Ukraine and Georgia, dependent on good treatment of ethnic minorities. Autonomy, maybe UN peace-keepers, for Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine. 5. Stop saying, “we won the Cold War.” This humiliates Russia. Embrace and praise their rejection of Communism, instead of treating them like a defeated enemy. 6. Stop using Neocon methods. We have tried Regime Change and Nation-Building, in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Haiti, etc., and now Ukraine. Every time, the result is a bloody mess.