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To: David Heiser who wrote (1510)	2/12/1998 2:36:00 PM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 6464

1. By the time anyone has a chance to reverse engineer the product, patents will exist. 2. Filing a patent disclosure requires you to explain in detail the principle behind your innovation. Reverse engineering on the other hand can be a very time-consuming process. You not only have to understand what the product is, you have to be able to deduce what the principle behind it's operation is. A patent disclosure filed too soon can be a Trojan Horse. The only reason to rush out and disclose is if you believe that someone else is developing the same technology. Apparently the management does not believe (rightly or wrongly) that they have any competition at this time.

To: David Heiser who wrote (1510)	2/12/1998 2:45:00 PM
From: gtoland	Respond to of 6464

I do not know who you talked to, but I did talk to Joe LaStrella and Ron Holland. They both stated that the patents would be filed. Maybe they have the Money they were looking for. I do not know that answer. It is possible that they have agreements with companies we do not know of. IMO I know that the things (???) that they are doing to the engine make it more efficient. gary :)

To: David Heiser who wrote (1510)	2/12/1998 2:54:00 PM
From: Rodney Doan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6464

If they don't believe in patents, they must not have anything that is patentable. How would a technology protect itself without applying for the patents? Even without the money to protect them, you have nothing to protect without the patent in the first place. Sure, it will take some time to reverse engineer something, but once it is reverse engineered and a patent applied for by the reverse engineerer, guess who owns it???????????

To: David Heiser who wrote (1510)	2/12/1998 4:57:00 PM
From: David Heiser	Respond to of 6464

This patent thread has been very educational. The topic was also addressed very clearly by Joe on the BAAT website under press releases. He is a good writer and whether it's truth or bull, at least I have confidence that Joe is literate and lucid. My comfort level has improved, so now I have time to worry about their failure to file financial statements and SEC filings. Joe didn't address that subject.

To: David Heiser who wrote (1510)	2/12/1998 6:04:00 PM
From: tariq afzal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6464

I am a microprocessor architect. I hold two patents in the the field and have two in the pipeline. All patents applications must file details of what is called "Reduction to Practice", in legal lingo. This section must describe how the invention can be implemented by a person educated in the field and goes in excruciating details/diagrams/schematics practically gives away a cookbook of your invention. Now big companies like IBM, Motorola, Intel(Ihave worked for one of these ;-) ) would apply for a patent right from the inception of a patentable idea, since they are in a position to enforce the patent if they ever go into litigation. But it has become a norm in Silicon Valley startups that they file for a patent well after their product is in the hands of their customers. They usually cover their bases by mailing the invention in a self addressed envelop to themselves. I agree 100% with Joe that patents only gives you the right to sue. In the high-tech field of microprocessors most people think that patents have become a joke. Trust me give me a patent and I can file another patent improving the invention. If I was running my company in silicon valley I would not lose my sleep by not applying for a patent before the launch of the product. Infact in silicon valley there is special interest group which is talking about alternate way to protect Intellectual Property, since patents are failing to do the job.