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To: sense who wrote (195946)2/6/2023 10:06:53 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217576
 
we must focus on the history of the matter, re Modi, for either the US / UK was wrong back whenever, or wrong now

same same re MBS of Saudi Arabia

same same re Ukraine

I remain agnostic even as staying curious

wsj.com


Why Narendra Modi Was Banned From the U.S.

Narendra Modi is the only person ever denied a U.S. visa based on a little-known law on religious freedom.

By James Mann

Updated May 2, 2014 at 4:26 pm ET
The banned Indian official is Narendra Modi, a longtime Hindu nationalist who is the prime ministerial candidate of the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, or BJP. Nine years ago, U.S. officials denied Mr. Modi a visa just as he was preparing to travel to New York to address Indian-Americans at a rally scheduled in Madison Square Garden.

That 2005 decision was based on Mr. Modi's failure to stop a series of deadly riots three years earlier by Hindus against minority Muslims in the Indian state of Gujarat, where he was (and remains) chief minister. The State Department invoked a little-known U.S. law passed in 1998 that makes foreign officials responsible for "severe violations of religious freedom" ineligible for visas. Mr. Modi is the only person ever denied a visa to the U.S. under this provision, U.S. officials confirm.

The 2005 decision by the George W. Bush administration now puts President Barack Obama in a bind. The U.S. could continue to deny entry to the likely leader of a democracy of great strategic importance. But virtually everyone seems to believe that once Mr. Modi's party wins office, the U.S. will reverse itself, and he will finally get his visa.

"Now that it looks like Modi will become prime minister, it's reasonable for the Obama administration to say it's been 12 years [since the 2002 riots], and we'll be happy to deal with him," says Nicholas Burns, the former undersecretary of state who supervised India policy during Mr. Bush's second term.

But even if Mr. Modi ultimately gets a visa, it is worth recalling the circumstances in which he was initially denied.

The story begins in 1998, when Congress passed the International Religious Freedom Act, which set up new U.S. mechanisms to combat religious persecution, including a standing Commission on International Religious Freedom.

At the time, many members of Congress were concerned about reports that Christians were being persecuted in such places as China and Sudan. But critics said that the act reflected a Christian or Judeo-Christian bias. The National Council of Churches even warned that the new law might "promote the cause of Christians to the exclusion of persecuted believers of other religions."

That's where Mr. Modi enters the story. He was virtually raised by India's Hindu nationalist movement. The son of a local grocer, he spent his childhood in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, a Hindu nationalist group that has sought to turn India, which is wildly diverse but has a large Hindu majority, into a Hindu state. After the group founded the BJP as its political wing in 1980, the fiery Mr. Modi rose through its ranks, becoming chief minister of Gujarat in 2001.

The next year, horrific violence erupted between Hindus and Muslims in Mr. Modi's state. At a train station, Muslims surrounded a train carrying Hindu pilgrims, and the two groups clashed. The train was set on fire, and 58 passengers died. Many Hindus blamed Muslim agitators for the blaze, and Hindu mobs rampaged through Muslim communities, beating people to death, raping women and burning homes. Over a period of days, more than 1,000 people were killed.

After years of investigations, no evidence has emerged to link Mr. Modi directly to these attacks. But questions linger about whether he took appropriate action to stop them; in some cases, the police stood by and did nothing. Mr. Modi has repeatedly said that he did what he could.

In Washington, the new Commission on International Religious Freedom took the opportunity to demonstrate that it sought to protect all religions, not just Christians. It held a rare public hearing on Capitol Hill about the anti-Muslim riots in India, taking vivid testimony from eyewitnesses. The members were struck by Mr. Modi's inaction. "It was wrenching, and it was documented," says one commission member, Shirin Tahir-Kheli, a Pakistani-American political scientist and former State Department official who was born in India.

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Three years later, Mr. Modi applied for a visa to the U.S. to speak to audiences in New York and Florida. He had emerged as a figure who could attract support for his party at home and among the Indian diaspora.

But Mr. Modi had also become an intensely polarizing figure among Indian-Americans. Other Indian-American groups, including the Indian American Muslim Council, learned of Modi's planned visit and began lobbying the State Department, Congress and the sponsors of his speaking engagements to prevent him from appearing.

The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom said that Mr. Modi should be denied entry. The State Department agreed. Mr. Modi already held a tourist visa, but the State Department revoked it, citing the 1998 law on violations of religious freedom. "He was responsible for the performance of state institutions" at the time of the 2002 Gujarat riots, the U.S. ambassador to India, David Mulford, explained.

Bush administration officials also didn't see Mr. Modi as high-ranking enough to matter much. "At the time, he was not a national figure," says Mr. Burns, the former senior State Department official. "He was not the prime minister of India or a cabinet official. He was a regional official, and what had happened [in Gujarat] was reprehensible."

Denying Mr. Modi a visa hasn't stopped him from speaking to U.S. audiences. He has appeared often—not in person but by satellite from India. "The only value of the visa denial was symbolic," says Ashley Tellis, an India specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "It did not cut off his connectivity to the people he wanted to meet."

But Mr. Modi was insulted and said that he wouldn't apply for a visa again. U.S. officials say, however, that he has tried indirectly. "From time to time, we would get feelers from people who knew him, or on his behalf, on whether we would grant a visa," says Richard Boucher, who headed the State Department's South Asia bureau from 2006 to 2009. "We would tell them, 'No, nothing's changed.' "

Finally, two months ago, as Mr. Modi's party—now running on a message of economic development and clean government—seemed poised to defeat the ruling Congress party in national elections, the Obama administration signaled a change. U.S. ambassador to India Nancy Powell held a one-hour meeting with Mr. Modi, the first such meeting since his visa was denied in 2005.

The State Department now has some grounds to claim that Mr. Modi's legal situation has changed since he was banned. Last year, an investigation approved by the Indian Supreme Court absolved Mr. Modi of complicity in the rioting. Based on that finding, a court in Gujarat found that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute him.

But if Mr. Modi becomes India's prime minister, that fact by itself will be the main reason for the U.S. to shift course and allow him to enter—not any greater U.S. comfort with his past actions (and inactions).

"You cannot deny a visa to an Indian prime minister, for heaven's sake. How could we conduct an important relationship?" said Dr. Tahir-Kheli. "But by the same token, I hope it will be an inclusive Mr. Modi, representing a country that has all kinds of religions and mind-sets."

Mr. Mann is a fellow in residence at the Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies and the author of "The Obamians" and "Rise of the Vulcans."



To: sense who wrote (195946)2/6/2023 10:09:24 PM
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all very puzzling, for either UK was or is wrong by lying

theguardian.com

UK government ends boycott of Narendra Modi
Jason Burke


The British high commissioner, James Bevan, shakes hands with Gujarat state chief minister, Narendra Modi. Photograph: Gujarat Information Bureau/AFP/Getty ImagesBritain has ended a 10-year diplomatic boycott imposed on a controversial Indian politician accused of failing to stop anti-Muslim rioting that left at least a thousand people dead.

Sir James Bevan, the British high commissioner, spent 50 minutes with Narendra Modi, the chief minister of Gujarat, in the western Indian state's capital of Gandhinagar on Monday morning. The conversation is understood to have been focused on business and investment.

Bevan said the encounter had been "open, positive and constructive" and that under discussion were ways to "develop co-operation between the UK and Gujarat across a very broad range of fields, including education, science and innovation, energy and climate change, and trade and investment."

Modi, from the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata party, is a divisive figure in India. Some see him as an extremist who sided with mobs who attacked Muslims in towns and cities across Gujarat, following a lethal fire supposedly started by Muslims on a train full of Hindu pilgrims in 2002 – a charge he denies.

Others, including some of the most powerful industrialists in India, say he is an effective, honest administrator who has introduced policies that have boosted development and reduced poverty during three successive terms as chief minister.

The 2002 violence led to a de facto travel ban imposed on Modi by the UK, the US and some European nations, as well as the boycott by all but junior officials. In 2005, Modi was refused a US visa as someone held responsible for a serious violation of religious freedom. The British decision to break ranks was described by local journalists as " a major boost to the pro-business leader's quest for mainstream acceptance".

When announcing the move earlier this month, Hugo Swire, the British foreign minister, said it was " in line with the British government's stated objective of improving bilateral relations with India".

Modi welcomed the announcement by posting a message on Twitter saying: "God is great."

Prof Shiv Visvanathan, a respected anthropologist involved with the legal campaign against Modi, said that the timing of the decision was surprising. "If they had waited a bit longer, the UK's record on human rights would have been better preserved," he said.

British officials in Delhi explained that a recent court decision that there was insufficient evidence to charge Modi for the violence of 2002, in which three British nationals died, had influenced the timing of the decision.

However, Indian commentators were scathing, accusing Britain of moving in order to ingratiate themselves with a potential leader of India. Modi consistently tops polls of India's most popular politicians and is spoken of as a prime ministerial candidate for the BJP, the main opposition. National elections are not due until 2014, but could come much sooner if coalition partners of the ruling Congress party withdraw their support.

"Strictly speaking, the British Foreign ... Office can argue that direct complicity has yet to be established. [Modi's] lack of contrition is outweighed by his rising profile as a possible ministerial candidate. Discretion is, after all, the better part of valour," wrote KC Singh in Outlook magazine.

Significant private sector investment in Gujarat from the UK and elsewhere also appears to have been a major factor. A British official in Delhi said: "This is about Gujarat, not about who is chief minister. One reason is to broaden and advance commercial interests. There are opportunity costs to not engaging. But we are looking forward not back. There is a large Gujarati immigrant community in Britain."

Bevan said he had reaffirmed "the British government's wish to ensure justice for the families of the three British citizens who were killed in the 2002 riots" and had raised broader questions of human rights in his discussion with Modi.

"This is about the power of the diaspora," said Visvanathan. "However, I am confident Modi's era will close. The law of the land will prevail." A former member of Modi's cabinet was recently convicted of murder and jailed for 28 years for having a leading role in the 2002 violence, in which as many as 2,500 may have died.

Witnesses described Maya Kodnani handing out swords to Hindus in the riots. She was later appointed as minister for women and child development. The Gujerati government has always maintained that the violence was spontaneous and did not involve local officials.



To: sense who wrote (195946)6/4/2023 8:01:56 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217576
 
Am getting a hint, perhaps a false hint, but a hint of what the state-sponsored BBC's Modi question Message 34179111 raised might be about

So locked on target, shall watch a bit if turns out hint appears more true




To: sense who wrote (195946)9/21/2023 4:52:25 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217576
 
Re <<The BBC said in a statement last week that the documentary was “rigorously researched according to highest editorial standards.”>> following up to"The Modi Question"Message 34179111

the attack vector deepens and broadens, and am wonderingwhether Team Blinken shall give Modi the MBS treatment, and the MBS+ treatment

Dunno, as if Team did do the wet work, ostensibly done democratically, unlike that which Team Saudi Arabia did in Turkey, which was done monarchically, for Team India, according to some, is the largest democracy of this planet

bloomberg.com

Canada Reduces Number of Diplomats in India Over Safety Concerns

-Visa application agency in Canada says visa services suspended
- New Delhi has warned Indians to exercise caution in Canada

By Saket Sundria and Sudhi Ranjan Sen
21 September 2023 at 15:49 GMT+8

Canada’s High Commission will reduce the number of diplomats in India due to security concerns as a diplomatic row escalates over murder allegations made by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

“In the light of the current environment where tensions have heightened, we are taking action to ensure the safety of our diplomats,” Global Affairs Canada said in a statement. “Out of an abundance of caution, we have decided to temporarily adjust staff presence in India.”

No further details were given.

BLS International, which runs India visa application centers in Canada, posted an online noticesaying that visa services were suspended indefinitely due to “operational reasons” from Sept. 21.

India’s Ministry of External Affairs didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The diplomatic spat erupted when Trudeau claimed that Indian government agents assassinated a prominent Sikh leader on Canadian soil. India has called the allegations “absurd,” and both countries expelled senior diplomats from the other side.

New Delhi has issued warningsfor its citizens living and studying in Canada to exercise caution in areas where there are anti-India activities and “politically condoned hate crimes.”

Ties between the nations are at their lowest point in decades due to tensions over demands by some Canadian Sikhs for an independent homeland. Canada has the largest Sikh population outside of India’s Punjab state.

Officials in New Delhi have long accused Canada of serving as a haven for Sikh separatists and doing little to protect India missions and consulates from protests carried out by these groups.