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Gold/Mining/Energy : Clifton Mining (CFB-Alberta)-Silver Play -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Dan P who wrote (278)2/14/1998 8:33:00 AM
From: David Luton  Respond to of 653
 
Dan:

I like your conservative style because it, compared to some of
the promoter bandits elsewhere on the web attracted me to
this site in the first place. However I believe you under
estimate both your knowledge and capability in this case.
My apologies in advance for a long response as this is
a complicated issue. I will only consider the relevant
Clifton issues as this is a Clifton thread.

If we use an analogy from real life the basic question is
whether we are better off marrying a girl (Clifton) now or
waiting for the attractions of her younger sister (American
Consolidated Mining Company.) We know we are going to
marry within the family, the basic question is which is
the best choice now before the market price gets too high.

The key to realize is that if you expect to wait for a certain
time frame (say 12 months)to realize your investment objectives
with Clifton, at least double it with ACMG. Because of the
number of upcoming potential synergies between the two companies
I am concerned that the controlling shareholders of both
(The Moellers) will merge the two companies and not give us
the chance to examine the respective merits of each.
Your update response makes it clear. The next major
production issue is the partially completed big mill.

For a real life example of what I am talking about see another
silver thread (United Keno Hill UKH - Toronto) and their
upcoming merger with (NDU Resources - NDU Vancouver). Like
a marriage, both parties bring some benefits to the union and
the whole is greater then the sum of the parts.

What we have to do is to analyze the synergies each brings to the union so that the likely market price relationships can be
determined in a relationship between the two. We buy the
undervalued partner.

Dan: If you feel unqualified I even feel less but let me
give it a shot. I don't think anyone has the answer
but maybe collectively we can work it out.

It has been mentioned on several posts the following
interrelationships between ACMG/Clifton.

1) It was Claude Cormier's post of early January
(See # 201) on this thread that got me to thinking
about this issue.

In it he mentioned that he believes ACMG holds
1,300,000 shares of Clifton. This is over 5% of
the total issued. Dan: Do you know what is the
true number and if there are any other Clifton
warrants or rights held by ACMG?

2) Their property is adjacent to Clifton. Dan over to
you, What do you think are the odds that the
Clifton propety veins extend into ACMG's site?
(There is a certain valley up in Idaho where a lot
of the present silver blue chips got established
by just the same situation.)

Continued on next post



To: Dan P who wrote (278)2/14/1998 9:00:00 AM
From: David Luton  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 653
 
Dan: Post # 2 Continued from previous post

3) I understand that ACMG has a net profit
interest in the partially completed mill
(60%??) that Clifton will use for its
next phase of expansion. This is capped
at a $1,300,000 total payout.

4) ACMG has a net smelter royalty of 2.5% on
all of Clifton's production (Similar to
the Euro or FrancoNevada in several gold
properties.

Based on Claude Cormier's analysis (Post 234)
with the yield modified up to $100.00 ton
because of higher silver prices, and your
updates, once the larger mill starts
up we get the following chart (PER DAY)
Clifton ACMG.

1) NSR @ 1000/tons day $100,000 $2,500
$100/ton
2) Estimated Gross $60,000 $3,000
profit daily prorata
share value (5%)
(In post 234 Claude Cormier has assumed costs of
$40/ton for Clifton for mining and milling)
______
Total daily profit ACMG $5,000

ACMG will also receive $1,300,000 for the Mill, and
apparently has an unused $2,800,000 tax loss.
At present TRADING PRICES in 1998 ACMG's market cap
is only $2,000,000.

Dan: Where am I wrong. My conclusion is that at present
ACMG stock prices the Moellers have a huge incentive
to buy ACMG and save Clifton shareholders a lot of money.

Dave