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To: Paul Engel who wrote (47910)	2/15/1998 9:12:00 PM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 186894

Paul, thanks very much for your thoughtful analysis. I bought CREAF a few months ago at 20 and again fairly recently at 17. They just seemed ridiculously cheap to me at the time. So far the investment looks pretty good but I'm been getting nervous feet thinking about the integration of CPU's as you have outlined. I'll have to do some serious thinking about this pick going forward. It's great to get a take from someone with your technical knowledge and foresight. And your right, I don't think CREAF could clone a Pentium II. Part of my thinking about CREAF was the integration of DVD and PC/TV. My futuristic vision saw a PC/TV integrated with a quality sound system for DVD playback and recordings, as well as the capability to surf the internet. I believe eventually we will get a device of this type with mass appeal, but now I fear the sound quality may be good enough with integrated CPU's. Michael

To: Paul Engel who wrote (47910)	2/15/1998 10:32:00 PM
From: Chris Sholler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

It wasn't all that long ago that INTC used to stongly suggest that external functions would be assimilated by the extraordinary and ever-increasing processing power of their CPU's. I can recall numerous "visions" from INTC implicating that NICs, modems, audio, graphics and who knows what else, were firmly within the sights of their processors. Now you seem to be expanding the scenario to include the processor AND the chipset. I've got a better question for you: open those same many-year-old x86 boxes, look at all the discrete silicon, and identify for us all the functions that have been incorporated into the CPU? Since Day1 of the PC industry many moons ago, I can think of one: Floating Point! So what else am I missing?

To: Paul Engel who wrote (47910)	2/15/1998 10:46:00 PM
From: Jay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, I haven't been keeping up with the details of the new video chips. But I can think of a pressing need for more CPU power in one area right now - I have been planning to digitize all my family home videos - and put them into CR-R disks which now cost just a buck apiece. I've tried this using my child's Sony VAIO computer but beyond 320x200 pixels the result is far from satisfactory on playback. I haven't tried to figure out whether the problem is in the recording or in the playback - but here is one application that many home users can use right now. After all who wants to rewind/fast forward through all the shaky hand held camera shots to get to truly important memories on tape? A second factor is that tape longevity is probably much less than a CD's (?). BTW the computer is a Pentium 233 (not a P II) I did a little bit of asking around and found out that the Matrox Rainbow runner claims to save at ~700x500 (max NTSC res) but I didn't want to spend another $400 to find out. Do you know where the problem is and who might benefit from this type of need?

To: Paul Engel who wrote (47910)	2/16/1998 12:47:00 PM
From: K. M. Strickler	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, Your message was not to me, but I would like to jump in! I kind of separate the computer into a couple of sections. Section one is the motherboard containing the CPU 'socket' to allow upgrading, various memory 'sockets' to allow upgrading, and 'daughterboard' PCI, EISA, ISA slots for expansion! ( Do you notice the absence of EIDE controllers, parallel ports and serial ports? ) Section two would consist of the peripheral cards, and would contain the parallel, serial, modem functions on on card, preferably using ASIC's (Application Specific Integrated Circuits) which are 'pluggable' for the most part to allow 'upgrades' Another 'daughterboard' would contain the 'video' and 'sound' functions. I use the All-In-Wonder card for video, but that has to link to my 'sound blaster'! I believe that these could all 'live' on one card, with some of the 'major' portions being 'pluggable' to allow for upgrading. I would like to see room for 'lots of memory' on this card to support a 21" monitor running 3D graphics. Naturally there would be a AGP in a 'pluggable' socket. All of the daughterboards would need to be PCI complient with the fastest technology available for board design, to allow for future upgrades! The i740+440BX seem's like a good step! Thoughts? Ken