To: Sr K who wrote (18979 ) 5/22/2024 8:28:24 PM From: Sun Tzu 2 RecommendationsRecommended By Cogito Ergo Sum Kirk ©
Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27216 A few things on Corporation personhood vs statehood/governments #1 Corporations are "governments" not persons. Which is to say they are means of governing group activities rather than being a personhood. This opinion is consistent with both the normal operation of corporations and how they were perceived by the framers and earlier supreme court opinions. #2 The corporate personhood argument has most often won success under this same umbrella. In other words, corporate lawyers have often argued that in denying corporations personhood rights, the rights of the owners of the corporations are ultimately infringed upon. The problem is the inconsistencies in how corporations are treated as personhoods at some times and statehoods at other times. The law needs to strip away the personhood nonsense because it is obvious that corporations are not real people. Should corporate owners want to exercise their rights, they are free to do so under the law, same as everyone else. They should not need corporate protection. Let's examine this in more detail: Individual political contribution are maxed at $3,300. Corporations have no such limit. As such they can outspend and diminish the individual rights. Corporations can tax deduct their "living expenses" but individuals cannot. This creates an uneven class structure. Every argument about some corporate expense deduction applies to the individual as well. Why the unequal treatment?Corporations rarely embody the norms we expect of the people or even small businesses. Rather, corporate governments today often look like the governments of a bygone era. Americans long ago rejected the idea that only people who own property should be allowed to vote for representatives — yet most business corporations operate under a principle of one-share, one-vote. Americans have also rejected the idea that women, people of color, and other groups that contribute to the country’s welfare should be denied the right to vote — yet few corporations allow workers, consumers, or even shareholders to vote on which political causes their corporation will support. So the root of the argument is not really against corporations. It is about the unfair advantages and treatments that corporations get and individuals are denied. By extension, it is also about unequal treatment of the people who influence corporate actions vs the rest of the community. Current treatment of corporations denies the society of equal treatment and creates rigid social classes and inequality. For the record, I do not believe that everyone is equal or that the society should push for everyone to become equal. But I do believe that the society should do its best to provide equal opportunities or at least equal rights to everyone.I want to see corporations treated as what they truly are: a virtual construct designed to govern groups of individuals. As such, I would not tax corporations at all. But nor would I afford them many rights as an entity. Rather I would allow the owners to exercise those rights. Similarly, I would limit the extent to which corporations can be prosecuted in courts. But I would expand prosecution of individual members that make/made up the corporation. In my version there would be no (ok very limited) corporate drug settlements for opioid cases. Rather I would drag the board members and major shareholders through the courts. They would face real monetary and criminal charges. No hiding behind the corporate shield. I bet board members would behave more ethically if they feared that they'd have to show up in courts for years and potentially go to prison. In my version, the criminal charges bar is much lower. ========= Zen teaches us that our brains are very literal. That when we put a name on something, we obscure its true nature. Nowhere is this concept is more clearly demonstrated than in "corporation".