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To: Hubert Few who wrote (2068)	2/19/1998 9:45:00 PM
From: Richard V Davis	Respond to of 6464

I do not know if BAAT is a scam or an interesting technological research company. I have my opinion and have expressed that opinion with my money. My post, if you read it, concerned the outright bias in the USA Today's article on BAAT. Your response that they do not want to "miss another "scam of the decade" story like they did with certain other penny stocks" is simply incorrect. It is not USA Today's responsiblity to tell me how to spend my investment capital. The paper could have treated this justifiably newsworthy situation in a professional manner as have a number of other publications. The SEC subpoena (NOT investigation) was news. Many media outlets reported this fact. USA Today hyped it. Had USA Today taken a positive tack on BAAT's technology and testing, it would have been correctly accused of hyping the stock. The reverse is also a valid statement. USA Today for some inexplicable reason has chosen to assault BAAT with misinformation, extraneous statements and misdirection. This is most certainly not the role of a newspaper. The Inquirer or Globe prints nonfactual stories on a daily basis and are derided for it. I would like you to consider my statements and respond to my points. I do not support any conspiracy theories. I do not think that there is some dark cabal planning the death and destruction of BAAT. I imagine that there is a simple reasonable explanation to the editorial bias that USA Today has displayed and continues to display. I do not know what the explanation is. I would dearly love to have a response from some responsible party in USA Today who might offer some explanation. I do not like reportial bias in any form be it for or against my own personal views. Rick

To: Hubert Few who wrote (2068)	2/20/1998 12:59:00 AM
From: Richard L. Williams	Respond to of 6464

Hubert-- You puzzle me....you make simple statements in a humourous way, then simply walk away without any explanation for them. At least USA Today tries to lay groundwork for its accusations, you only trash BAAT with a wide smirk. I am starting to get the feeling that you just like to stir up crap to watch the feathers fly. Well, you certainly know how to rankle folks, Hubert. I hope you are chuckling your head off. And the way you talk, you can't hope to have any credibility. But thanks for trying, Hubert. Cheers! Rick

To: Hubert Few who wrote (2068)	2/20/1998 4:35:00 AM
From: TheAlaskan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6464

Hubert and the Bear Piles, Dimensions vs. Dementia First off, I love your punny lines and your points of view. I wish everyone put as much thought into the delivery of their posts. But what one can charm in delivery, one can lack in substance. Lets examine the Bear Piles to see what the Bear has been eating. 1. BAAT background. What is Joe's experience and what has he patented before? What other companies has he run or run with? What is the background of Ron Holland the developer of the technology? What is the background of Bill Wason. Answer: little. (Anyone please add) Joe supposedly worked for an East coast Edison co. as an engineer. Nothing has been mentioned that he has been an entrepreneur before arriving at BAAT. However an unconfirmed post mentioned that he was involved in a Pulse wave patent to do with water propulsion. I do not have a confirmation on this. he has an uncommon name so a name check can be done with the US patent office. His attorney friend in Utah mentioned in the USA Today is not so stellar in reputation. Ron Holland? Bill Wason is a former Alaskan and is affiliated with environmental concerns. He helped write the legislation that was just introduced in CA for a sales tax abatement for vehicles with 65 mpg or more fuel efficiency. Seems to me that a Scam company wouldn't bother to have a political agenda. The Bear pile here is warm, but not hot. 2. Scam of the Century? Are you crying "Tucker". I'm Afraid that Europeans and Japanese are not so archaic as Big Three at fielding technology.It is interesting to note that most of the "little" fuel efficient cars marketed in US by big three were previously tested and fielded in Europe (or are Japanese built) before being sold here. WHY? competition is keener in Europe. Even folks with commonsense and MONEY refuse to feed their cars with Arab fuel. National strategies and policies also support fuel efficiency and conservation for national interests. On this point, all one has to remember that it was the big three that gave us the Vega and Pinto(and the closest Chrysler came was the Dart). If the big three didn't miss the boat then we probably would not have the Lexus or Infinitis today, nor would VW be what it is. Answer: 95 mpg deployable technology without retooling.....hmmm The pile here is cold and rock hard. The bear checked out during the January test run. Big three conspiracies? I too do not subscribe to such whinings. I look for cold hearted business strategy. If I was an OEM, I would keep BAAT on the shelf as long as possible. The auto industry is not the computer industry where the technology turns over every six months. Auto technology changes slowly and then its deployment is premeditated. Remember the early GM diesels (converted gas engines)? They sucked GM (Cadillac)of market share (to Lincoln Continental) and GM learned not to jump too fast on any wave until its time. The auto boys are cautious and very entrenched in the status quo. Their attitude is that BAAT technology is premature on their product development scenarios and biz plans. The Big three will have fuel efficient vehicles in seven to ten years. BAAT is a bothersome company that is screwing up the 3, 5 and 7 year plans. If an OEM adopts and deploys BAAT technology now they will create a fuel efficiency war that will suck money from the bottomline while they spend a fortune revamping engines and engaging in a marketing war. This is not conspiracy, this is business. The objective is to make money not field technology. Any one upsmanship would be short lived. Wait for the technology to prove itself in Europe and then slip back to here. Hubert the pile here is cold. I am amazed at your comments are warning outbursts are loud and clear, (there not punny) but are only backed up by your experience with losers. Just because you have friends in low places("half of those posting tonight will be out of the stock tommorrow evening") doesn't mean that BAAT will swim or sink. BAAT will swim or sink on its own merits not by the deeds of SEXI or others. The little ones left with the last passing. BAAT is for real just like the bear piles in the woods. Give me the benefit of your contrarian insights. BTW Hubert, have you ever seen a hot smelly pile and know that Mr. Brown or Mr. Black (bear) was watching from the bushes just waiting to see if you would mess with his territorial mark; knowing full well that a Mr. Brown or Mr. Black can run up to 50 mph and is probably no more than 50 feet from you? ( You can always smell a bear, but you can't always see them) . Smart Alaskans don't have such fecal desires. As far as twinkies in the woods?(They don't pack well) Please give me the dimensions and basis for your opinions. I'm listenting but I'm hearing the pangs of dementia that sounds more like chicken little. Or is this the plan.....to get some more cheap shares? Strong statements with no substance to back them is not ignoring the obvious. Please tell me that I am missing something of substance. The Alaskan