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To: Paul Engel who wrote (4553)2/22/1998 3:42:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Paul; They is currently no real need for alternates as socket based solutions seem to be keeping up(within 10% faster/slower)
I expect that they will end up with either a socket solution(current concept leader with cache on board) or a repin of the slot 1 in a unique manner to bypass any patents, and look like it. ( it will not be plug compatible)

Your scenarion about tight work might just be right, and end up with a die 5-10% larger in area, at higher yield, with fewer dice part of the in toto cohort.

Bill



To: Paul Engel who wrote (4553)2/22/1998 4:09:00 PM
From: Kevin K. Spurway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6843
 
Paul, interesting suggestion. Sounds like a very realistic scenario.... How unprecedented would such a re-layout be?

Interestingly, PowerPC 750 on the same IBM process (.25u, 5 metal layer) has 6.35 million transistors and a die size of 67mm^2, whereas the K6 has 8.8 million transistors and a die size of 68mm^2. Looks like the K6 is much more aggressive in terms of transistor density.

Kevin

PS Here's an amusing page for anyone interested: seems the human brain draws about 20 watts versus about 43 for the PII 300mhz. :)

macevolution.com



To: Paul Engel who wrote (4553)2/23/1998 1:42:00 AM
From: greg nus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Paul, AMD problem is not dice size. They are hung up on one critical process having to do with layering. IBM to the rescue!!!



To: Paul Engel who wrote (4553)2/23/1998 2:47:00 PM
From: Petz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Paul, who needs Slot 1? Winmag says Cyrix's Mx-266 is faster than their P2-300 Slot 1 reference system. Petz