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To: Joe Champion who wrote (7803)	2/22/1998 5:17:00 PM
From: IngotWeTrust	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116877

JC sez: To my knowledge only 2've reached commercial proportions on a continuous basis with a 3rd coming on line in March 1998. The others are dealing w/milligram production levels from test tube size tests. Assuming for a moment your proferred hypothesis is true... assuming for a fact milligram production levels from test tubes is *NOT commercial proportion* then what is the amount/point of throughput that quantifies the "commercial production" category? 300oz per yr? More? Less? I await your public response. O/49r

To: Joe Champion who wrote (7803)	2/23/1998 3:06:00 AM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116877

Hi Joe, Frankly, I am very, very skeptical of what you have reported (commercial low-energy transmutation of metals into platinum and gold etc); Rightly or wrongly, I find it inconceivable that anyone, let alone "Dr. Robinson", who has discovered low-energy transmutation of base metals into precious metals would want to keep it under wraps in expectation of making sky-high profits. (Mind you, all scientific research funded by any university will have to be officially approved and the results reported and published in journals. No work could be conducted in total secrecy!) Indeed, success in low-energy transmutation of base metals into gold would be such a momentous event in the world of science (an alchemist's dream come true!) that I believe the discoverer would, as a #1 priority, have had established priority in his/her research, by shouting EUREKA!!! to the world by publishing his/her research in journals etc.) There was no need to keep it all under wraps as he/she would have known that he/she is slated to win the Nobel Prize and will be immortalized in the world of science. If indeed the research was successful, I am confident it would have been reported with considerable fanfare and celebration. And the press and other media would have given it so much publicity that the POG would not have gone up to >$800 in 1980, and would not have stayed north and south of $400 thereafter. (So you thought 32 years is a credibly long-enough time for the lab-production of gold to evolve to the present commercially-viable stage, eh?) So what are you really up to? Up to some prank/hoax? Having fun? Trying to scare the great "unwashed" into selling their silver and gold and PGMs? Helping the shorters (perhaps you included amongst them) to make humongous gains? It seems to me you have a most wonderful sense of humour and are aptly named to 'champion' the commercial production of cheap gold by low-energy transmutation and be a champion in general (even at shorting silver, gold and the PGMs, eh?). What you have reported reminds me of the much hulla-ballued low-temperature fusion of hydrogen to produce a horrendous amount of cheap energy. After a brief excitement, that whole damned 'discovery' fizzled out in the late 1980s. Someone else might say you are trying to sell 'snake oil'. It seems you were trying to suggest that silver could be produced cheaply. And your answer to ole'49r was kinda evasive!!! As I am a science man myself (I have done research in Beta-hydrogen Isotope Effects in Elimination Reactions) I do hope low-energy transmutation of metals is for real. But, as I said, I am very skeptical (for a whole bunch of technical reasons). Quantum mechanical tunnelling is very doable for hydrogen but not as easy for heavy nuclei!!! Of course, time will tell us all for sure! Meanwhile, I wish you the very best of luck in all of your endeavours! R.

To: Joe Champion who wrote (7803)	2/23/1998 8:53:00 PM
From: RagTimeBand	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116877

Joe >>In the US there are seven laboratories that I am familiar with that are synthesizing gold from low energy nuclear events. Four of these laboratories are associated with public companies found on the parent SI thread. The other laboratories are associated with pristine universities. Outside of the US, you will find 12 universities, an unknown quantity of industrial laboratories and private researchers trying to develop this area of science.<< If I read it correctly, one your web site you imply that Global Platinum and Gold is using transmutation to derive gold. I've taken the time to go their web site and can find no reference to using transmutation. Would you please clarify this? Thanks - Emory