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Strategies & Market Trends : Value Investing -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Paul Senior who wrote (77873)	8/15/2025 4:17:03 AM
From: Sean Collett	Respond to of 78507

OT - value investing: << First of all, imo, Burry is no value investor. And that's reflected by the stocks in his portfolio, and their rapid turnover. If his picks are valuestocks, it's pretty hard to see how they are, given what my view of value stocks is. Others may have a different opinion.>> I do indeed have a differing opinion. If we boil value investing down to the simplest form it's finding something selling for less than what it's worth, buying it, and then selling it for a profit; to note being below what it's worth does not just mean depressed price as the security could be fairly priced by today's standards/earnings but have untapped growth potential. From here there are numerous strategies layered on to screen for something selling for less than it's worth (e.g., low P/E, low EV/EBITDA, low P/FCF, or even "magic formulas"), when to buy this security, when to sell, when to DCA, whatever else. In the end end it's all about buying something for less than it's worth Many consider Peter Lynch to be a value investor and Peter had 300% turnover in his portfolio until he himself got that down to just 110%. Ben Graham was selling stocks once he got a 50% gain and otherwise held for only two years before they were cut loose. Buffett changed that by being known for his low turnover. The father of value investing himself, Ben Graham, changed his entire style by the end of his career. When he came out of retirement he knew his net-net strategy was not netting the results it once did and worked on a new strategy that he implemented in his last fund with Jim Rea. This thread itself in the introduction says "What we are looking for are value plays. Value plays in the Ben Graham tradition." - which Ben tradition? 1940 Ben, 1962, 1975? All of that to just add to the discussion that I don't believe one can state Dr. Burry is no value investor. If Scion bought a security selling below what it's worth and then sold it for a profit then he would indeed fit the bill. Back to topic: EL: Dr. Burry sold down but added calls which I found interesting. I would assume given the price movements those are closed out though. LULU: I agree but with "value" being subjective to an extent, I will just throw it up as I have not looked into it enough to know if it is undervalued. Great cash flow with a 27% ROIC when I quickly glanced. Given where market is I don't see massive growth potential here though. UNH: Does appear undervalued and a decent value play, but not for me. Even putting $10K in only gets you ~33 shares at this price and if it returned to the 52-week of $600/s it's only a $9,800.00 gain pre-tax. Better ways to deploy capital. BRKR: This one I am going to take a peak at this weekend. Some of their recent contract wins look interesting. If I just look some high level measures I would agree it does look on the higher end of the price spectrum. Overall nothing that interested me outside of maybe BRKR and will dive a bit deeper into that. -Sean

To: Paul Senior who wrote (77873)	8/15/2025 1:05:08 PM
From: Bob Rudd	Respond to of 78507

I think Burry does value investing sometimes: I've often looked at his holdings and found we were in the same thing, but he also employs other investing strategies that don't fit the value category, like MELI which looks overvalued. I do the same, buying MP on rare earth scarcity despite high PE. Sold half into the run up and am playing on house money. I also have a long term position in UNH which I sold down by 2/3's on brand impairment and margin risk if they need to loosen approval standards. I may add back but will not chase it although it feels good to have it once again >10x my 28.79 cost.

To: Paul Senior who wrote (77873)	8/18/2025 10:50:23 AM
From: Madharry	Respond to of 78507

I added more SSSS and SBGI and PK. started tracking position in AMAT

To: Paul Senior who wrote (77873)	9/5/2025 4:17:11 PM
From: Paul Senior	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78507

Lululemon (LULU). Burry was seemingly pretty confident (21% of public portfolio) when he bought last quarter. The stock has continued to fall, and there's a sharper drop (18.6%) today. I've read that Burry is using options to a Very large extent, and maybe sophisticated techniqes have mitigated his losses. If he has had enough puts, maybe he's ahead. Or perhaps with the stock fall, he's been long gone. I bet there's still a market for high-end sports/yoga clothing, and at some point LULU will continue to have the product and aligned prices that attract. I've a tracking position, and I added a few shares today. Athleisure is a contemporary fashion industry movement, enabled by scientific development and growth of advanced and cutting-edge textile materials and technical fabrics and fibers which allow modern activewear to be more durable, breathable, lightweight, stretchy, versatile, comfortable, and fashionable. ot: I can't be the only geezer buying/wearing this stuff. -g- Sometimes looks like it though when I'm out and about. finance.yahoo.com