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To: Jim Patterson who wrote (48824)2/25/1998 6:39:00 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Jim,>>>As you can see, This is why I see trouble on INTC's horizon.
Every one of you on this thread know that for a basic office PC a
P-166 or P-200 is plenty. For the home with out a gamer it is plenty for now.<<<

What you are referring to are people who have been using a computer acquired since 1995 (Up until late 1994 Bill Gates had never been on the Internet). While most computer programs and applications you are referring to were written with the pentium processor in mind - you are right that anything greater than a 166mhz Pentium is more than adequate for many of the current must have applications.

However, what you see here is only the tip of the Iceberg. The computer industry did not begin in 1995. Alan Greenspan in his testimony to congress today referred to some of the programs that he wrote many years ago and to his surprise are still in use today. He further stated that those programs that he had written back then were poorly documented and that if he had to go back and fix some of those programs himself, he would have a difficult time trying to figure them out. His point was that if these old programs had to be fixed for the year 2000 there would be a serious impact on the economy as time needed to fix these programs were not productively used to create something new but only spent to fix something old.

This may perhaps give you some sense as to the enormous amount of computer programs that are in use today that do not have the WIMP (Windows, Icons, Mouse, and Pull down menus) paradigm.

Many of these old programs are CPU intensive applications and require response time measured in nanoseconds. A response time measured in seconds would be a disaster. If you entered an account number, order number, part number to retrieve information - the end user cannot wait seconds for the program to paint the screen with different colors and filled with retrieved data and then have the end user wait seconds to respond. Many businesses have requirement for several hundred transactions per hour. A delay of seconds would be extremely expensive.

Therefore many of these programs have not been converted to the new WIMP paradigm because the computers are not fast enough. This is the market that the Merced will begin to address. Even the early iterations of the Merced will not be powerful enough to address all those applications.

The question now becomes how big is the market that the Merced is targeted for as compared to the market for home computers?

To give you some sense of this number, the situation that Alan Greenspan addressed today in his testimony to Congress has an estimated price tag of $600 Billion dollars. This is the estimated cost to fix software that does calculations using a two digit number to represent the year rather than using a four digit number.

If it will cost an estimated $600 Billion dollars to fix some obsolete software used to perform date calculations, can you imagine what it will take in terms of hardware and software to replace all those applications?

I just don't think that most people can comprehend the size of the computer industry whose only exposure is to computers in people's homes and what see their children do with them.

A long winded investor in Intel,

Mary Cluney




To: Jim Patterson who wrote (48824)2/25/1998 6:51:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Jim - Re: "this is why I see trouble on INTC's horizon.
Every one of you on this thread know that for a basic office PC a
P-166 or P-200 is plenty."

These are truly spectacular insights. I can see you labored hundreds and hundreds of hours to come to these conclusions which, frankly, are quite original - I have yet to see someone suggest that "we already have all the computing power we need".

At least I haven't heard that suggested in the last five minutes or so.

Wall Street apparently has picked up on your brain waves - which explains the spectacular sell-off in Intel's common stock over the past month.

May I suggest you e-mail Andy Grove a copy of your post - Andy clearly isn't hitting on all 8 cylinders or he would have seen this brilliant epiphony by now.

Just think of all the money Intel can save by shutting down their 3 or 4 design teams, 2 Technology Development Fabs and thousands of R & D personnel.

Intel can 'Save Themselves' into spectacular prosperity.

Thanks again, Jim, for such clear and original insight.

Paul



To: Jim Patterson who wrote (48824)2/26/1998 1:44:00 AM
From: Khris Vogel  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
As you can see, This is why I see trouble on INTC's horizon. Every one of you on this thread know that for a basic office PC a P-166 or P-200 is plenty. For the home with out a gamer it is plenty for now. This is the bottom of INTC's production line.

Gee, and there was somebody telling Thomas Watson that nobody should ever need a computer, too.
In 12-18 months, a 166mHz or a 200mHz is going to be today's Pentium 75 or maybe even a 486/33.
Streaming video, internet video-telephony, 128bit graphics, etc. Predicting that everything is going to stand still for even months at a time is totally unrealistic today.
A major part of Andy Grove's master strategy to grow Intel into an even-more predominant co. is not too wait for the demand for more computing power to come about, it's for Intel to create the applications itself that will drive the need for more sophisticated computers. That and for the entire computer to come from Intel, in the process.